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FILENAME:	3463_1367_1415
TOPIC#:		329
DATE:		911206
TRANSCRIBER:	glp
UTT_CODER:	mlg
DIFFICULTY:	2
TOPICALITY:	3
NATURALNESS:	2
ECHO_FROM_B:	2
ECHO_FROM_A:	1
STATIC_ON_A:	3
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:        None.

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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay,  /
qr          A.1 utt2: would you, {F uh, } like to begin or would you like me to start? /  

sd          B.2 utt1:  {F Uh, } {F oh, } I can start. /  

bk          A.3 utt1:  Okay. /  

sv          @B.4 utt1:  [ I, + I  ] think one of [ the, + the  ] biggest, {F uh, } improvements in women is that finally  you're starting to see them get into, {F uh, } management -- /  

b          A.5 utt1:  Yes. /  

sv          B.6 utt1:  -- {C and } you're seeing them, {F uh, } get, {F uh, } elected to, {F uh, } <static> political offices.    

 b         A.7 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

 +        B.8 utt1:  {F Uh, } not near enough.  /
 sd         B.8 utt2:  I know there's still a long way to go especially in top management <static>. /  

aa          A.9 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa         A.9 utt2: I agree. /  

sv          B.10 utt1:  You're not seeing, {D you know, } - /
sv          B.10 utt2: looking at T I, you see them in management,  but you're not seeing them up there as V P -s. /  

b          A.11 utt1:  Right. /  

sd          B.12 utt1:  {C And } I have a sister that's an attorney in Oklahoma City,  /
sd          B.12 utt2: {C and } I know the company that she was with, {F uh, }  /
sd          B.12 utt3: the women didn't [ h-, + have  ] near  [ the positions, + the levels  ] that the men attorneys had.    

 b         A.13 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.14 utt1:  And were not, {F uh, } given the same respect. /  

sd          A.15 utt1:  I agree with that.  /
sv          A.15 utt2: [ I, + I  ] think you do see more and more women out there in politics, too, as mayors --   

b          B.16 utt1:  Yes. /  

+          A.17 utt1:  -- or, {F uh, } {D you know, } [ in, + in  ] helping to maybe, {F uh, } get some legislation passed [ to, + to  ] have women have more rights.  /
sv          A.17 utt2: I think still, even with that whole, {F um, } thing with Judge Thomas [ [ and, + and,  ] + ] {F uh, } [ you, + you  ] still felt like the woman was the one that you would maybe discredit first before the man  /
sv          A.17 utt3: {C or }  something the way they had the trial - /
sv          A.17 utt4: {C and } --   

b          B.18 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.18 utt2: uh-huh. /  

+          A.19 utt1:  -- {F uh, } I just think that [ it's, + it's  ] still going to take another generation or so before, before the women [ really, + could really  ] feel that they're really equal in the business world and that they work just as hard or harder <laughter>. /  

b          B.20 utt1:  Right,  /
b^r         B.20 utt2: right. /  

%          A.21 utt1:  {F Uh, } {C but } it's still, {F uh, } - /
sv          A.21 utt2: going [ from, + from  ] homemakers into, {F uh, } corporate leaders is still a big step. /  

b        B.22 utt1:  Right,  /
sv          B.22 utt2: I also think that, {F uh, } {F uh, } women as homemakers are beginning to get more respect than they used to be.  /
sv(^q)          B.22 utt3:  Used to be people would say, do you work, and you'd say, no, I work in the home  /
%          B.22 utt4: {C and } -- -/  

b          A.23 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          B.24 utt1:  -- [ [ it was, + it was,  ] + then it was  ] almost like a put down,  [ particularly, + particularly  ] even by women in the work force.  /
sv          B.24 utt2: {C But, } [ I think now, + I think  ] people are realizing that the roles women play in the home are very, very important. /  

aa          A.25 utt1:  Yes. /  

sv          B.26 utt1:  {C And } it's getting the respect [ and, + ] which is about time. /  

sv          A.27 utt1:  I think it's true.  /
sv          A.27 utt2: I think also people are having children at a older age -- /  

aa          B.28 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa          B.28 utt2: very definitely. /  

%          A.29 utt1:  -- {C so } it's maybe {D like, } {F uh, } {D you know, } - /
sv          A.29 utt2: you go through college  /
sv          A.29 utt3: {C and then } you maybe work for a few years  /
sv          A.29 utt4: {C and then } you have your first child  /
sv          A.29 utt5: {C and, } {F uh, }  [ {D you know, } {D [ you, + you ] know }  ] both sides of the coin. -/  

ba          B.30 utt1:  That's right. /  

 sv         A.31 utt1:  You know what it's like and how much work it takes to keep the house running smoothly,  and to take care of the kids.  /
sv          A.31 utt2: [ {C And, } + {C and then, }  ] {F uh, } maybe people that are just working and think, {F oh, } you just stay at home. - /
sv          A.31 utt3: {C But } then when they're in their thirties and have their first and second kid, it's like,  they lose it <laughter>. /  

b          B.32 utt1:  <Laughter> Right. /  

sv(^q)          A.33 utt1:  They say, wow!  /
^q          A.33 utt2:  This is harder than I thought <laughter>. /  

aa          B.34 utt1:  Yes <laughter>. /  

%          A.35 utt1:  {D Well, } {D you know. } -/  

sv          B.36 utt1:  [ {C And, } + {C and, }  ] to those that have never worked [ and had, + {D you know, } and have  ] stayed home with the kids, kind of does your heart good <laughter>. /  

ba          A.37 utt1:  I know it,  /
ba^r          A.37 utt2: I know. /  

sd          B.38 utt1:  {C Because } I know I stayed home with mine and didn't start working until mine were in high school. /  

b          A.39 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

 sd         B.40 utt1:  [ {C And, } + {F uh, } {C so, }  ] {D you know, } [ it, + it  ] kind of does me good.  /
 sd         B.40 utt2: I think also one of the things [ that, + that's  ] really tremendous {A and, it doesn't necessarily have to do with women, } [ but + ] the fact that the fathers are --   

 ^2         A.41 utt1:  Are so involved. -/  

 +         B.42 utt1:  -- so involved with families. /  

aa          A.43 utt1:  Yes. /  

sv          B.44 utt1:  Which, again, I think [ it + ] helps a woman's role. /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Right,  /
b^r          A.45 utt2: right. /  

%          B.46 utt1:  {D You know, } -/  

sv          A.47 utt1:  Their role has to change --    

b          B.48 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.48 utt2: uh-huh. /  

+          A.49 utt1:  -- to kind of accommodate us, too.  /
sv          A.49 utt2:  I know,  /
sd          A.49 utt3: I have three children  /
sd          A.49 utt4: {C and } my oldest is eleven  /
sd          A.49 utt5: {C and } I've pretty much been home, {F uh, } since Brian was born  /
sd          A.49 utt6: {C and, } {F uh, } just recently I went back to work, {F uh, } last school semester to tutor, {F uh, } high school age students with learning disabilities  /
sd          A.49 utt7: {C and } I was just out of the house two days a week -- /  

b          B.50 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.51 utt1:  -- {C but, } I thought, wow, this is really hard,  /
%          A.51 utt2: only, - /
sd          A.51 utt3: {C and } it was only two days  /
sd          A.51 utt4: {C and } I was home before three. /  

x          B.52 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sd          A.53 utt1:  {C But } getting the baby to day care, getting the kids off to school, I still did everything I always do,  {D you know, }  /
sd          A.53 utt2: my husband still got up and went to work -- /  

b          B.54 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          A.55 utt1:  -- {C but, } {F uh, } [ it, + it, ] - /
sd          A.55 utt2: only those two, - /
sd          A.55 utt3: it made a big difference.  /
sd          A.55 utt4: I thought, wow, full time,  /
sd          A.55 utt5: I don't think I could swing that personally. /  

sd          B.56 utt1:  {D Well, } I had to,  /
sd          B.56 utt2: course, I work full time,  /
sd          B.56 utt3: {C but } my <static> daughter and her husband were out of town  /
sd          B.56 utt4: {C so } I had my grandchildren for --   

b          A.57 utt1:  Oh. /  

+          B.58 utt1:  -- four days during, {F uh, } [ football, + soccer  ] season -- /  

ba          A.59 utt1:  {F Oh, } boy. /  

sd          B.60 utt1:  -- {C and so } I would work  /
%          B.60 utt2: {C and } her, - /
sd          B.60 utt3: some friends would take care of the kids,  /
sd          B.60 utt4: {C but } I would have to get them picked <static> up from there --   

b^m          A.61 utt1:  Pick up.     

+          B.62 utt1:  -- get them fed, get them to practices --   

+          A.63 utt1:  Dinner. -/  

+          B.64 utt1:  -- get homework done, get baths. /  

b          A.65 utt1:  Right. /  

sd          B.66 utt1:  I was absolutely exhausted. /  

ba          A.67 utt1:  I bet,  /
ba^r          A.67 utt2: I bet. /  

sv          B.68 utt1:  [ {C And, } + {C and }  ] these women that are waiting until they're in their late thirties, or early forties to have their first children, I think are absolutely crazy. /  

sd          A.69 utt1:  {D Well, } [ I, + I  ] know a lot of people,  /
sd          A.69 utt2: I know I had my first child when I was twenty-five,  /
sv          A.69 utt3: {C and } that's not considered really young these days,  /
%          A.69 utt4: that's almost, {D you know } -- -/  

b          B.70 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.71 utt1:  -- {C but, } {F uh, } I have friends [ that, + that  ] have kids just starting kindergarten  /
sd          A.71 utt2: {C and } [ they're, + they're  ] forty years old.  /
sd          A.71 utt3: [ {C And, } + {C and then }  ] {D like } maybe a two year old at home, - /
sd          A.71 utt4: {C and } I think, boy, [ I, + [ I'm, + I'm ] ] in my thirt-, -/ 

