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FILENAME:	3105_1285_1013
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DATE:		910621
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qy           @A.1 utt1:  Do you have any personal feelings [ on, + on ] {F uh, } the subject? /  

sv           B.2 utt1:  {D Well, } {F uh, } capital punishment is a hard thing,  /
sd          B.2 utt2: {C but, } {F uh, } there's been several, - /
sd           B.2 utt3: there have been several things that have happened where I felt like  if I had been involved in it I would have had [ to, + to ]  go along [ with, + with ] that being the punishment given [ to, + to ] the people. /  

b          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b          A.3 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd          B.4 utt1:  There have been some things, {D you know, } - /
sd          B.4 utt2:  there's things done that are just <sigh>, -/  

^2          A.5 utt1:  So outrageous.  /
aa          A.5 utt2: I know,  /
aa^r          A.5 utt3: I know. /  

aa          B.6 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.6 utt2: that I do not know how, - /
sd         B.6 utt3: I do not really  there's any other way to deal with it. -/  

aa          A.7 utt1:  Right. /  

x          B.8 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

sd           A.9 utt1:  {D Well } [ I, + I ] guess my concern is what we are reading, especially in Texas right now with them letting [ out + ] <sigh> the people out of  jail as soon as they are out of prison [ when they do + ] and having them go right back the day they get out, back in crime.    

aa          B.10 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sv          B.10 utt2:  I think that [ [ that, + that, ] +   

+          A.11 utt1:  And # especially when they are assaulting, #   

+          B.12 utt1:  # that's ] a really, # -/  

+            A.13 utt1:  people and then killing people, {E I mean, } the man who,   

x          B.14 utt1:  <Sniffing>.   

+          A.15 utt1:  killed those three sheriffs deputies,  he is out free,  walking the street.  /
sd          A.15 utt2: I have a real problem,   

aa          B.16 utt1:  Yeah,  /
bf          B.16 utt2: # [ if it's a, + #   

+          A.17 utt1:  # with that. # /  

+           B.18 utt1:   (( if it's a )) ]  clear and present danger, {E I mean } it, -/  

aa          A.19 utt1:  I think so. /  

sv           B.20 utt1:  <Throat_clearing> {C But, } it's something that's really <inhaling> hard to deal with, the way that our justice system is right  now, <sigh> is basically set up in lawyers  /
sv          B.20 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ] anybody,   

aa          A.21 utt1:  Right. /  

+            B.22 utt1:  will tell you that, {F uh, } it is set up right now, all the laws protect the criminal. /  

aa          A.23 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          B.24 utt1:  They are the ones with the rights. /  

o@          A.25 utt1:  {D Well, }  *[[slash unit, since A's next turn does not pick up this false start]] 

sv           B.26 utt1:  They have the right to, {F uh, } <sniffing>  {D you know, } - /
sd           B.26 utt2: I think I watched something last week, {F uh, } (( )) , {E I am sorry, } the  accused has the right to a speedy trial.  /
sd           B.26 utt3:  {C But, } the victim [ [ does not have the right, + does not have the same ] + <barking> --   

+@          A.27 utt1:  Does not have the right <laughter>.  *[[ slash error]]

+           B.28 utt1:  -- does not have [ the same, + the same ] ] emphasis on those things,   

+@          A.29 utt1:  Right. / *[[slash error]] 

+          B.30 utt1:  as far as they are concerned,  /
sd           B.30 utt2: {C so, } now the  accused [ can, + can ] ask for delays and extensions  /
t1          B.30 utt3: {C and, }   

b          A.31 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.32 utt1:  what do they call, -/  

b          A.33 utt1:  Right. /  

h          B.34 utt1:  whatever they call them, {D you know. } -/  

sd          A.35 utt1:  {C And } meanwhile, the witnesses,   

x          B.36 utt1:  <Sniffing>.   

+          A.37 utt1:  move and die  /
%          A.37 utt2: [ {C and } + --   

aa          B.38 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa^r          B.38 utt2: uh-huh,  /
aa          B.38 utt3: exactly. /  

+          A.39 utt1:  -- {C and } ] they, -/  

bf          B.40 utt1:  Continuance, -/  

sd          A.41 utt1:  {C and } there's no one to face them. /  

sd            B.42 utt1:  They can get continuances on for years, before the thing ever comes to trial  /
sv          B.42 utt2: {C and } that makes the victim <inhaling> suffer,   

b          A.43 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.44 utt1:  more. /  

aa          A.45 utt1:  Right.  /
sv          A.45 utt2:  {D Well, }   

%          B.46 utt1:  The  ((   )) , -/  

+*           A.47 utt1:  they can not get any,  if the judge is going to have any award to the victim, it just puts off their collecting it. / *[[probably should be cannot]] 

aa          B.48 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.48 utt2: that too. /  

sv          A.49 utt1:  [ It's, +   

%          B.50 utt1:  {F Um, } /  

+          A.51 utt1:  it's ] really bad,  /
%          A.51 utt2: it, - /
%          A.51 utt3: I, -/  

sv           B.52 utt1:  I think [ that, + {F uh, } {D you know, } that ] there needs to be a way that, {D you know, } once someone <inhaling> has gone through, <sigh> {D you know, }  a trial, I do not know how to fix it.  /
sv           B.52 utt2:  {E I mean, } it just seems like [ there, + <inhaling> there ] should be a limit on how many appeals can be made. /  

aa          A.53 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa^r          A.53 utt2: uh-huh,  /
aa^r          A.53 utt3: uh-huh. /  

sv          B.54 utt1:  {D You know, } when someone has been, -/  

sv          A.55 utt1:  A time limit too. /  

%          B.56 utt1:   (( ha-, )) - /
aa          B.56 utt2: Yeah, /  

sv,o@          A.57 utt1:  # Do not let it, # -/  *[[ Seems that this is continued in A.59 ]]

sv          B.58 utt1:  # when someone ha-, # -/  

sv,o@          A.59 utt1:  drag on for fifteen years, /  *[[ See note above ]]

sd         B.60 utt1:  {D Well, } even when someone has been convicted  / 
sv            B.60 utt2: {C and, } {E I mean, } it's just [ so, + so ] abundantly clear that they did it. /  

b          A.61 utt1:  Right. /  

sd           B.62 utt1:  {C But } appealing, {D you know, } and continuing to appeal, {D like } four or five or six times. - /
sd          B.62 utt2: To have convictions overturned - /
sd          B.62 utt3: {C and then } they have to  be retried and all that.  /
sv          B.62 utt4: It's such a waste of time and energy and money.  /
%          B.62 utt5:   {C And } [ it, + it ] just, - /
sv          B.62 utt6:  that's what keeps, - /
sv           B.62 utt7: that's what is keeping all  [ [ the, + the, ] + {D you know, } the ] criminals in a position of being able to be released all  the time, like this. /  

aa          A.63 utt1:  Right.  /
qy           A.63 utt2:  Do you feel like there's any certain type of crime that this should be the results, they should be consequences of capital punishment, - /
qrr          A.63 utt3: [ {C or, } + {C or, } ]   

b          B.64 utt1:  Oh. /  

+           A.65 utt1:  are there some murders committed that you think leniency should be shown. /  

nd            B.66 utt1:  <Inhaling> {D Well, } <breathing> I guess there's extenuating circumstances to anything like that.  {F Uh, } <TV> {D you know, }  /
sd           B.66 utt2: {D like }  [ I, + I ] could see, {F uh, } a first time offender [ being, + ] {D you know, } maybe, <inhaling>  ((   ))   [ in a, + in a ] robbery situation, trying to hold up a store and getting scared and,  {D you know, } firing a gun and accidently killing someone. /  

b          A.67 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd           B.68 utt1:  {D Okay, } I could see that that might be the situation where, <inhaling> {F uh, } the person could be rehabilitated. /
sv           B.68 utt2:  {C But, } I think just  out and out murder, and I am talking about, {F uh, } cutting people up --   

b          A.69 utt1:  Okay. /  

+            B.70 utt1:  -- {D you know, } where there's shown to be pathological tendencies where this person has done it over and over again, in a serial  fashion or whatever <TV>. That those,   

b          A.71 utt1:  Right. /  

+            B.72 utt1:  kinds of things and [ any, + any ]  kind of violent assault, rape included,   

b          A.73 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           B.74 utt1:  needs to addressed [ [ in, + in, ] + in ] that context <TV>. /  

qo           A.75 utt1:  {C And } how do you feel about murders of law officers or fire people or  something that are, # because they have had them, they have had them killed when they have, # -/  

sd          B.76 utt1:  # {D Well, } what bothers me, - /
sd          B.76 utt2:  that bothers me a great deal,  /
sd           B.76 utt3: # I had a friend who was a police officer, who was killed in the line of duty. /  

%          A.77 utt1:  {F Um, } {F um, } {F um. } /  

sd           B.78 utt1:  {C And } the thing that was the worst about it is that [ these, that, + ] {F uh, } two of these individuals were, {D well } all of the individuals  involved were very young.  /
sd          B.78 utt2: One was technically a minor,  /
sd,o@       B.78 utt3: {C and so } he was sent back to Mexico,  *[[ Geez--this utt combined with B.80 utt1 seem to total 4 legitimate slash units instead of just 1. ]]

o@          A.79 utt1:  {F Uh. } *[[slash error]]   

+@           B.80 utt1:  he was an illegal alien, the other two had  lived here, <sniffing> they had graduated from high school here,  /  *[[ See note above ]]
sd           B.80 utt2: {C and } they had told  their teachers that [ wh-, + ] {E I mean, } - /
sd            B.80 utt3: repeatedly  during high school, they had told their teachers [ that they were going to be, + that they were <TV> going to ] graduate from high school and kill cops <TV>. /  

+@          A.81 utt1:  That was their goal. /  *[[slash error]]

sd          B.82 utt1:  That was what they had told their,   

b          A.83 utt1:  Oh. /  

+          B.84 utt1:  teachers,  /
sd          B.84 utt2: {C and so } that's what they did <noise>.  /
sd            B.84 utt3:   {C And, } {F uh, } <inhaling> [ they were, + <noise> they were ] given, # I think, # -/  

bf          A.85 utt1:  # That would # be premeditated <laughter>. /  

aa         B.86 utt1:  {F Oh, } absolutely. /  

o@          A.87 utt1:  {F Uh. } *[[slash error]]

sd           B.88 utt1:  <Sniffing> He stopped them for routine traffic violation  /
%          B.88 utt2: {C and } they <TV> {F uh, } <throat_clearing> -- -/  

+@          A.89 utt1:  They killed him. /  *[[slash error]]

sd          B.90 utt1:  -- [ several, + several ] things happened that night  /
sd           B.90 utt2: {C but } [ they, + they ] beat him up and took his gun and shot him --   

%          A.91 utt1:  {F Uh, } {F uh, } {F uh. } /  

+          B.92 utt1:  -- with it.  /
sv          B.92 utt2:  {C And } [ it was, + it was ] really terrible.  / 
sd           B.92 utt3:  {E I mean, } {F uh, } I had seen him {D like } three or days before that. /  

b          A.93 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.94 utt1:  He, - /
sd          B.94 utt2: we had gone out, {F uh, } <noise>  with he and his wife  /
sd           B.94 utt3: {C and } that was [ really, + really ] disturbing <noise>,   

b          A.95 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.96 utt1:  {D you know, } that that happened.  /
sd            B.96 utt2: {C And } these people,  <inhaling> {D you know, } [ in the, + in the ] course of the trial, {D you know, }  came up [ with, + with ] all these, {D you know, }  things about {D well, } {D you know, }  they were disadvantaged and all this stuff.  /
sv          B.96 utt3: {D Well, } nobody is that disadvantaged <noise>. /  

aa          A.97 utt1:  No.  /
aa          A.97 utt2: {D Well, } that's # right,  /
sv          A.97 utt3: there's no reason, #   

b^m          B.98 utt1:  # {C And } there's just no rea-, {E I mean, } # -/  

+          A.99 utt1:  for murder. /  

aa          B.100 utt1:  No. /  

sv            A.101 utt1:  <Noise> I do not care if you are poor or if you are rich or  if you are,   

x          B.102 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

+             A.103 utt1:  ugly or [ pre-, + ] what [ there, + ]  [ that, + that's ] just beyond,   

aa          B.104 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.104 utt2: I think so too. /  

+          A.105 utt1:  the, -/  

%          B.106 utt1:  {C And } that's, {F uh, } - /
sd          B.106 utt2: {C so, } [ I, + # I ]  do feel strongly about. # -/  

sv,sd,o@      A.107 utt1:  # I think this giving excuses #  is pretty prevalent, {F uh, } [ yo-, + ] I work in the school district  / *[[ 2 slash units? ]]
sd           A.107 utt2: {C and } [ the, + ]  all these kids, they have  got an excuse for everything. /  

b          B.108 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd           A.109 utt1:  {C And } I can see it continuing on when they are adults.  /
%          A.109 utt2: I just, <noise> - /
sv,o@            A.109 utt3: it's just a bad habit, {F uh, } {F uh. } kids have  got to learn from the time they are real little, there's no excuse [for, + for ] being bad or making bad choices deliberate or anything. /  *[[2 slash units? ]]

b          B.110 utt1:  Yeah. /  

%          A.111 utt1:  It's, <inhaling> it's, {F uh, } - /
sd            A.111 utt2: [ I, + I ]  sometimes think if I were on a jury <TV> and had to make the decision could I. - /
sd         A.111 utt3: {C And } I like to think I could, like you, - /
sd          A.111 utt4:  [ if, + if ] especially violent <TV> crime,   

b          B.112 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.113 utt1:  where serial type killer or maybe a child has been deliberately killed. -/  

sd            B.114 utt1:  The thing that even though juries sometimes make the decision - /
sv           B.114 utt2: {C and } still the people, nothing ever happens to them. /  

aa          A.115 utt1:  Right. /  

sv           B.116 utt1:  <Noise> {D You know, } they stay in jail, they get off time for good behavior and all that stuff,  and they get released </noise>. /  

b          A.117 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.118 utt1:  {C And } they go right back and do it again. / 
