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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay,  /
bf          A.1 utt2: {C so } you have eight children.  /
qo          A.1 utt3: {F Um, }  what type of things do you do as a family to spend time together. /  

sd          @B.2 utt1:  {F Oh, } we spend a lot of time outdoors jogging,  bicycling, {F uh, } going to the park, {F um, } some time watching V C R --   

b          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.4 utt1:  -- movies --   

b          A.5 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.6 utt1:  -- {F um, } generally cheap things <laughter>. /  

b          A.7 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
b          A.7 utt2: <laughter> Yeah,  /
ba          A.7 utt3: we know how that goes.  /
sv          A.7 utt4: {F Uh, }  with lots of kids you don't have lots of money for recreation. /  

aa          B.8 utt1:  That's right. /  

ba          A.9 utt1:  {D Well, } that's fun.  /
^h          A.9 utt2: {C So, } {F um, } let's  see, {F uh, }  /
sd          A.9 utt3: some of the things we do together as a family, we like to play games a lot,  /
sv          A.9 utt4: {C and } you may think  this is funny,  /
sd          A.9 utt5: {C but } one of our funnest games we like to play together is hide and seek,  /
sd          A.9 utt6:  {C and } <laughter> we just have a hoot playing hide  and seek when it's dark --   

b          B.10 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.11 utt1:  -- in our house,  /
sd          A.11 utt2: {C and } that is so fun.  /
sd          A.11 utt3: The kids just  get a crack out of that.  /
sd          A.11 utt4: {F Um, } [ we like, + we do like ] to go to the  park, too [ you, +  {F uh, } like your ] family.  /
sd          A.11 utt5:  {F Um, } we don't do a lot of vacationing.  /
qy          A.11 utt6:  Have you taken a lot of vacations together  /
%          A.11 utt7: {C or, } -/  

no          B.12 utt1:  Most of our vacations are to go and see Grandma and Grandpa. /  

b          A.13 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
%          A.13 utt2: {C and } whe-, -/  

sd          B.14 utt1:  We get an occasional one or two day thing -- /  

bk          A.15 utt1:  Oh. /  

sd          B.16 utt1:  -- {C but } most of them are going and seeing  Grandma and Grandpa. /  

qw          A.17 utt1:  {F Oh, } now where do they live? /  

sd          B.18 utt1:  In Arizona. /  

qy^d          A.19 utt1:  {F Oh, } {C so } that's a bit of a drive for you there. /  

ny          B.20 utt1:  Yes. /  

qy^d          A.21 utt1:  {F Oh, } {C so } you like to go there for the  holidays  /
%          A.21 utt2: {C and. } -/  

nd          B.22 utt1:  {F Oh, } we don't go very often for holidays.  /
nd          B.22 utt2:  Generally we try to get all of our kids back home for the holidays --   

b          A.23 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.24 utt1:  -- and let Grandma and Grandpa come and visit us. /  

b          A.25 utt1:  {F Oh, } uh-huh.  /
qw          A.25 utt2: {F Uh, } what are the ages of  your kids then? /  

sd          B.26 utt1:  They range from twenty-four to five. /  

b          A.27 utt1:  {F Oh, } yeah.  /
qy^g        A.27 utt2: {C So } you have some in the nest and some out, # {F huh. } # /  

na          B.28 utt1:  # That's right. # /  

x          A.29 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

qw          B.30 utt1:  How old are your children? /  

%          A.31 utt1:  We have, - /
sd          A.31 utt2: ours start at twelve  /
sd          A.31 utt3: {C and then }  they go down to four. /  

sd          B.32 utt1:  I think the hardest thing for us [ has been, +  is ] to find [ ac-, +  {D you know, } leisure time activities ] that all of our kids can enjoy together --   

ba          A.33 utt1:  I bet,  /
%          A.33 utt2: yeah. /  

+          B.34 utt1:  -- with the age span that we have, {D you know, }  /
sd          B.34 utt2: {D like }  the older kids love playing board games and that kind of thing -- /  

b          A.35 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.36 utt1:  -- {C but } the young kids don't understand it -- /  

b          A.37 utt1:  Yes,  /
b          A.37 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd          B.38 utt1:  -- {C and so } they get real frustrated when we try  to do that,  /
%          B.38 utt2: {C and. } -/  

b          A.39 utt1:  Yes,  /
sv          A.39 utt2: {C and then } if you want to play something on the  little kids' level, then the older kids get real bored,  /
sv          A.39 utt3: {C and } they want to do  something else.  /
%          A.39 utt4:  {C So. } -/  

b          B.40 utt1:  Yeah. /  

b          A.41 utt1:  Yeah,  /
ba          A.41 utt2: [ I can, + I can ] relate to that.  /
qr          A.41 utt3:   {F Um, } do you feel that the current trend in families spending time together is a positive one or  a negative one? /  

sv          B.42 utt1:  I think it's improving, actually. /  

b          A.43 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.44 utt1:  We had an interesting experience the other day.  /
sd          B.44 utt2: [  We, + we ] have pretty much [ a, + a ] routine that we spend,  /
sd          B.44 utt3: we don't have our kids play  with other kids on Sunday -- /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.46 utt1:  -- {C and } we just kind of keep them at home -- /  

b          A.47 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.48 utt1:  -- {C and } our next door neighbor, {F uh, } - /
sd          B.48 utt2: we were at a  soccer game Saturday,  /
sd          B.48 utt3: {C and } our next door neighbor was there,  /
sd          B.48 utt4: {C and } somebody came  up and asked if their daughter could spend Saturday night at their house -- /  

b          A.49 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd(^q)          B.50 utt1:  -- {C and } she said, no,  Sunday's our family day <laughter> -- /  

b          A.51 utt1:  Uh-huh <laughter>. /  

^q          B.52 utt1:  -- {C and } we keep our kids at home so we can  spend time with them. /  

ba          A.53 utt1:  That's good. /  

sv          B.54 utt1:  {C And } I think those kinds of things are happening  a lot where we are right now. /  

ba          A.55 utt1:  {F Oh, } good. /  

sv          B.56 utt1:  I think it's gone to one extreme where the families  were just running all different direction -- /  

b          A.57 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.58 utt1:  -- {C and } I think more people are interested in  spending time with their kids now. /  

aa          A.59 utt1:  I think so,  /
sd          A.59 utt2: {C and } I feel [ like, + {D you know, } like ]  President [ Bush, + Bush ] has mentioned quite often, that we are trying to become a kinder and gentler nation,  /
sv          A.59 utt3: {C and } it does begin with the families at home -- /  

b          B.60 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.61 utt1:  -- {C and so } [ I, + I'm ] a firm believer in that, too. /  

sv          B.62 utt1:  I think a lot of people are panicked,  how kids are turning out and how things are going for kids and realizing they've got to start  doing something.  /
%          B.62 utt2: {C So. } -/  

aa          A.63 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa          A.63 utt2: [ that's, + that's ] true.  /
sd          A.63 utt3: {D Well, } we see that  a lot out here in Utah,  /
sd          A.63 utt4: {C and, } {F um, } [ hopefully, + hopefully ] it's going to  spread, {F huh. }   ((   )) . /  

sv          B.64 utt1:  Utah's a lot better <laughter> than Texas. /  

b          A.65 utt1:  <Laughter> Oh.  /
qy          A.65 utt2: {F Um, } do you have a lot of large  families out there in Texas,  /
%          A.65 utt3: {C or. } -/  

ng          B.66 utt1:  Very few. /  

b^m          A.67 utt1:  Very few.  /
qy          A.67 utt2:  You feel like you're in the minority? /  

na          B.68 utt1:  {F Oh, } definitely. /  

x          A.69 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sd          B.70 utt1:  When we tell people how many kids we have they  look at us like we didn't have good sense. /  

ba          A.71 utt1:  {F Oh, } dear <laughter>. /  

%          B.72 utt1:  {C But, }  {F uh. } -/  

sd          A.73 utt1:  {D Well, } out here in Utah, five is about [ the + --   

^2          B.74 utt1:  Average. /  

+          A.75 utt1:  -- the ] average,  /
%          A.75 utt2: yeah. /  

sd          B.76 utt1:  My wife and I were in Utah until --   

b          A.77 utt1:  Oh. /  

+          B.78 utt1:  -- I guess we were about twenty-four. /  

b          A.79 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.80 utt1:  Never been back, since then,  /
sd          B.80 utt2: {C but, }   

b          A.81 utt1:  Oh. /  

+          B.82 utt1:  We have kids up there now,  /
sd          B.82 utt2: {C so } we get up occasionally. /  

b          A.83 utt1:  Oh.  /
sd          A.83 utt2:  {F Oh, } I have some relatives out there in  Texas,  /
sd          A.83 utt3: in fact my mom's out there in Texas right now, in Dallas, spending a month with her cousins, on their ranch,  /
%          A.83 utt4: {C and. } -/  

qw          B.84 utt1:  [ Where, + where ] in Dallas? /  

ar          A.85 utt1:  {D Well, } {F uh, } no,  /
t1          A.85 utt2: I'm trying, Aberdeen? /  

br          B.86 utt1:  {F Huh. } /  

qy          A.87 utt1:  [ Is, + is ] that close to Dallas? /  

no          B.88 utt1:  I don't have any  idea.  /
sd          B.88 utt2:  I've never --   

bk          A.89 utt1:  Oh. /  

+          B.90 utt1:  -- heard of it.  /
sv          B.90 utt2:  Must be a --   

%          A.91 utt1:  Don't you. /  

+          B.92 utt1:  -- little town. /  

sd          A.93 utt1:  [ It's, + I guess it's ] out there,  clear out.  /
sd          A.93 utt2:  They have a ranch that has like  five hundred acres,  /
%          A.93 utt3: {C and, } -/  

b          B.94 utt1:  Yeah. / 
