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FILENAME:	4008_1531_1468
TOPIC#:		325
DATE:		920225
TRANSCRIBER:	GL
UTT_CODER:		AEE
DIFFICULTY:	1
TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	3
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:        None.

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qy          A.1 utt1:  do you have a P C? /  

ny          B.2 utt1:  Yes,  /
sd^e          B.2 utt2: I have a Macintosh S E thirty. /  

b          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
b          A.3 utt2:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.3 utt3: a lot of my friends are into Macintoshes.  /
sd          A.3 utt4: I have [ a, {F um, }  P C, + a I B M P C ] myself. /  

b          B.4 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.5 utt1:  A two eighty-six.  /
sd          A.5 utt2: I'm probably eventually going to get a three eighty-six.  {F Um. } /  

qw          B.6 utt1:  What do you use yours for mostly? /  

sd          A.7 utt1:  {F Um, } mostly, {F um, } word processing applications and, {F uh, } just as a dumb terminal. /  

b          B.8 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.9 utt1:  {F Um, } {C but } [ I, + {F um, } I ]  think eventually I'll start using it for spreadsheets and  things like that.  /
qw          A.9 utt2: {F Um, }  what do you find that you use yours mostly for? /  

sd          B.10 utt1:  {D Well, } I do a lot of word processing and spreadsheets and data base,  /
%          B.10 utt2: {C and, } {F uh, } about the only thing - /
sd          B.10 utt3: [ I am, + {F uh, } I'm ] just starting to get into, {F uh, } a little bit more communications now.  /
sd          B.10 utt4:  I've just today ordered a fax modem  /
sd          B.10 utt5: {C so } I'll be able to --   

b          A.11 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.12 utt1:  -- send and receive faxes right over there without using, {D you know, } - /
sd          B.12 utt2: you don't have to make a hard copy that way. /  

b          A.13 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

qy          B.14 utt1:  {F Uh, } are you using windows? /  

nn          A.15 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          A.15 utt2: [ I, + I ] think [ I, + I'm ] planning on {D like } moving up, getting a three eighty-six before I move up to windows --    

b          B.16 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.17 utt1:  -- although, {D you know, } I do like [ the, + the ] graphical user environment. /  

b          B.18 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sv          B.18 utt2:  {D Well, } it's getting to be more and more like a Macintosh <laughter>. /  

aa          A.19 utt1:  <Laughter> Yeah,  /
%          A.19 utt2: it's, {F um, } - /
sd          A.19 utt3: [ [ I want, + I want ] to be able  ((   )) + I just want it ] more for multi tasking, which I suppose is also like a Macintosh. /  

b          B.20 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

b          A.21 utt1:  {F Uh. } /  

sd          B.22 utt1:  {D Well, } the one thing I used to use a, {F uh, } - /
sd          B.22 utt2: I've never used an I B M actually.  /
sv          B.22 utt3: I used to use [ a, +  just an ] Apple two E, which of course [ is +  --   

b          A.23 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.24 utt1:  -- looks ] pretty primitive now. /  

aa          A.25 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.25 utt2: that's what I learned a lot of languages on, was an Apple two E in my high school. /  

sd          B.26 utt1:  {C But } I don't have [ any, + {F uh, } any ] real programming capabilities on my, {F uh, } Mac right now. /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.28 utt1:  I don't have, {F uh, } any compilers -- /  

b          A.29 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.30 utt1:  -- {C so } I'm, {F uh. } -/  

qr          A.31 utt1:  {D Well, } do you use your computer for, {F um, } just things around the house, or in the  ((   )) . -/  

sd          B.32 utt1:  I use it in my business. /  

qw          A.33 utt1:  {D Well, } {D see, } what do you do? /  

sd          B.34 utt1:  I, {F uh, } do, {F uh, } consultation [ and, + and ] testing of various kinds for, {F uh, } English as a second language programs. /  

ba          A.35 utt1:  {F Oh, } wow.  /
%          A.35 utt2: {F Um, }  {C and, }  {F uh, } [ are these {D like, } + {F uh, } do these ] programs,  {F um, } - /
qy          A.35 utt3: [  are, + are ] they based [ [ on, + on ] a, + on a, ] {F um, } other language,  /
%          A.35 utt4: {C or } [ are  they based, + are they based ] - /
sv          A.35 utt5: {D like } [ a lot of the, + {F um, } {D you know, } a lot of the ]  English as a second language classes will have people from all sorts of, {D you know, } parts of the world,  /
sv          A.35 utt6: {C and } the teacher just [ tries to, + tries to ] teach English, {D you know, } through natural understanding. /  

sd          B.36 utt1: [ That's, {F uh, } exactly what, + {D yeah, } that's the kind of thing ] I'm working with exactly. /  

b          A.37 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.38 utt1:  You seem to be, {F uh, } better informed than the average person on that. /  

sd          A.39 utt1:  {D Well, } it was just, {F uh, } when I was high school, I worked for the community school,  /
sd          A.39 utt2: {C and } they had a English second language class  /
sd          A.39 utt3: {C and } it always seemed strange to me that, {D you know, } [ all these, + all these ] people that, {D you know, } spoke English not too well, and spoke, {D you know, } a variety of different languages were all being taught at the same time. /  

b          B.40 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.41 utt1:  I imagine it's a lot harder on a computer because [ you have to, + {D you know, } you don't have ] as many cues,  /
sv          A.41 utt2:  you [ can't, + don't ] have hand gestures and things like that. /  

aa          B.42 utt1:  Right.  /
%          B.42 utt2:  {D Well, } now, we, {F uh, } - /
sd          B.42 utt3: what I use a computer for is to write materials that --   

b          A.43 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.44 utt1:  -- are later printed, though.  /
sd          B.44 utt2: Most of the stuff that I do is not, {F uh, } interactive -- /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.46 utt1:  -- {C and } I use it for [ t-, + ] {F uh, } data analysis on testing,  /
%          B.46 utt2: {C so. } -/  

qy^d          A.47 utt1:  {F Uh, } to see how well they retain the vocabulary and things like that. /  

nd          B.48 utt1:  {D Well, } [ just, + actually, just, ] {F uh, } item analysis, statistical analysis of the tests, {F uh. } /  

b          A.49 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.50 utt1:  {D You know, } when you write a test you have to look at some data from it and  see how the different questions are performing --   

b          A.51 utt1: Uh-huh. /  

+          B.52 utt1:  -- and find out which ones are discriminating well and which ones aren't --    

b          A.53 utt1: Uh-huh. /  

+          B.54 utt1:  -- find out how reliable the test is,  /
sd          B.54 utt2: you try correlate it with other tests and things of that sort.  /
sd          B.54 utt3:  {C So } it's, involves a lot of spreadsheet use. /  

b          A.55 utt1:  Yeah,  /
ba          A.55 utt2: I would imagine so.  /
qw          A.55 utt3: {F Um, }  {C so, }  {F um, } what were you doing when you were using an Apple two E? /  

sd          B.56 utt1:  {D Well, } I was doing some of the same stuff, but doing it more slowly <laughter>,    

x          A.57 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

+          B.58 utt1:  and with smaller files.  /
sd          B.58 utt2: <laughter> I can't believe, {D you know, } I've got, {F uh, } five, {F uh, } megabytes on this one now -- /  

b          A.59 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
%          A.59 utt2: [ It, + it's ]   ((   )) . -/  

sd          B.60 utt1:  -- {C and } on my two E I had a hundred twenty-eight K <laughter>. /  

aa          A.61 utt1:  Yes,  /
sv          A.61 utt2: it's amazing, {D you know, }  [ how, + how ] {D like } in the general user community the expectations have just grown so much.  /
sd          A.61 utt3: I remember my first computer was a T R S eighty with four K on it -- /  

b          B.62 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.63 utt1:  -- {C and } {D you know, } [ [ then, + then ] we, + then I ] started playing with Apples, {D you know, }  /
sd          A.63 utt2: {C and } those had forty-eight,  /
sd          A.63 utt3: {C or, } {D you know, } if they were really great --   

qy^g          B.64 utt1:  {F Oh, } [ [ the old -- +   

+          A.65 utt1:  -- they had sixty-four K. /  

+          B.66 utt1:  -- the old ] Apple, + {F uh, }  [ the, + the ] original Apple  ] had, [ what, + ] [ yeah, + ] forty-eight I guess, didn't it. /  

sd          A.67 utt1:  {F Uh, } [ I know, +    

x          B.68 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

+          A.69 utt1:  I know ] that in my school they had a bunch that had sixteen K on them, # is all,  /
%          A.69 utt2: {C and } # -- -/  

ba          B.70 utt1:  # My goodness. # /  

sd          A.71 utt1:  -- [ there's, + I remember that there was ] one game that I played that required forty-eight K  /
sd          A.71 utt2: {C and } there was only one computer that had forty-eight K on it at the time. /  

b          B.72 utt1:  Uh-huh <laughter> <throat_clearing>. /  

%          A.73 utt1:  {C And } {D you know } it's just so amazing that generally, {D you know, } [ if you, + if you, ] - /
sd          A.73 utt2:  I'm not sure about Macintoshes,  /
sd          A.73 utt3: {C but } I know I B M -s, [ [ you, + you ] generally, + {D you know, } you buy ] a megabyte at a time. /  

b          B.74 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.75 utt1:  {D You know, } [ [ that's, + that's ] your low-, + that's the low ] end.  {F Uh. } /  

sd          B.76 utt1:  {D Well } the S P thirty goes up to eight -- /  

b          A.77 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.78 utt1:  -- {C but } I haven't upgraded it quite that far yet.  /
sd          B.78 utt2: I think probably when I get system seven I may have to do that [ and, + and ] get [ another, + possibly another ] hard disk.  /
h          B.78 utt3:  I don't know.  /
sd          B.78 utt4: They say that system seven uses a lot of memory. /  

b          A.79 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
b          A.79 utt2: Yeah,  /
ba          A.79 utt3: I imagine  ((   )) . / 
