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FILENAME:	3417_1407_1417
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DATE:		911120
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o          A.1 utt1:  Yes.  /
sv          A.1 utt2:  {F Um } I  guess my initial view is our tax burden hasn't gone down in recent years [ despite, our total tax burden, + despite tax cuts  ] -- /  

b          B.2 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.3 utt1:  -- {C but } among industrialized nations we have one of the lowest [ in, + in ] the world,  /
%          A.3 utt2: {C and } in  ((   )) - /
%          A.3 utt3: of the matter, - /
sv          A.3 utt4: you get what you pay for,  /
sv          A.3 utt5: if we're going to have national health insurance, which seems likely, it's necessarily going to involve more taxes.  /
sv          A.3 utt6: {F Uh, } [ I suspect, + I take ] the view that cutting income tax rates has been good for [ the, + the ] economy,  that most other countries have a higher share of the tax burden in various kinds of sales taxes, {F uh, } energy taxes, particularly,  and that to the extent we need to raise more taxes, that's the direction we should look. /  

aa          B.4 utt1:  Right.  /
sd          B.4 utt2: {D Well, } I guess I kind of have mixed feelings <laughter>.  /
sv          B.4 utt3:  {F Um, } {D you know, } you always sit there  /
sv          B.4 utt4: {C and } out of each pay check so much comes out of it,  /
sv(^q)          B.4 utt5: {C and } you wonder, {D you know, } # where's it all going # -- /  

aa^m          A.5 utt1:  # Where's it all going? # /  

sv          B.6 utt1:  -- {C and } we have such a huge, {F uh, } national deficit,  /
sv(^q)          B.6 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ] I guess a lot of times there's questions wondering {D well, } if it's doing a whole lot of good.  /
sv          B.6 utt3:  I know there's a lot of social programs out there that need help.   /
sv(^q)          B.6 utt4: {C But } you kind of always wonder, {D well } [ where's, + where's ] the money going?  <Laughter>. /  

sd          A.7 utt1:  {D Well, } [ [ one, + one, ] + one ] of the big tax that has gone up a lot in this year is the social security tax --    

b          B.8 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.9 utt1:  -- which in principle is going [ into, + into ] a big trust fund,  /
sd          A.9 utt2: {C but } that is a particularly regressive tax, {F uh, }  /
sd          A.9 utt3: it's a tax on the first dollar earnings,  /
sv          A.9 utt4: {C and } Senator Moynihan's, {F uh, } proposal [ [ to, + to, ] + to ] cut there  I think [ wou-, + makes ] a lot of sense. /  

ar          B.10 utt1:  I'm sorry,  /
ar          B.10 utt2: I couldn't. /  

sv          A.11 utt1:  I think Senator Moynihan's proposal [ to, + to ] cut the social security tax which isn't really [ going to, + going to ] beef [ [ up, + up, ] + up ] the social security program could make a lot of sense. /  

aa          B.12 utt1:  Right,  /
aa^r          B.12 utt2: right.  /
aa          B.12 utt3: Yeah,  /
aa          B.12 utt4: I agree with that.  /
sd          B.12 utt5:  As far as other countries, [ I'm not, + {F um, } I don't ] keep up on it too much as to far <laughter> [ as what, + {D you know, } as what ] they're do-,. - /
%          B.12 utt6: I know - /
sd          B.12 utt7: we were in Ireland last year -- /  

b          A.13 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.14 utt1:  -- {C and } I know that the tax there is extremely high, much higher than we pay here,  /
sd          B.14 utt2: [ {C but } -- +   

b          A.15 utt1:  {F Oh, } yeah. /  

+          B.16 utt1:  -- {C but } ] as far as other countries, I'm not, {F uh, } up to par on <laughter>. -/  

sd          A.17 utt1:  [ I think Japan, + I think Japan ] is probably about equal to ours -- /  

b          B.18 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.19 utt1:  -- {C and } other major countries are higher.  /
sd          A.19 utt2:  Our friends were amazed that [ the  sales taxes, + the cost ] of things when they went to Canada not so long ago. -/  

b          B.20 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.21 utt1:  {C And, }  as a whole, most other countries have a higher level of cradle to grave government services,  /
%          A.21 utt2: {C and } --   

b          B.22 utt1:  Right. /  

+          A.23 utt1:  --  it's a [ real, + real,  ] - /
sv          A.23 utt2: [ they're, + they're  ] real trade-offs there. /  

aa          B.24 utt1:  Right.  /
aa          B.24 utt2:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.24 utt3: [ [ {C but, } + {C and, } ] +  {C and } ] you sit there and wonder, {F um, }  /
sv(^q)          B.24 utt4: I guess this doesn't really have to do with taxes but just money in general,  [ and, +  and, ]  {F um, } wondering if you're going to have enough when you retire <laughter> to live on. /  

%          A.25 utt1:  {F Uh, } <laughter>  I, - /
sv          A.25 utt2: [ that's, + that's  ] a scary thing that there's [ no, + no ] real knowing about.   /
sv          A.25 utt3: {F Uh, } [ [ the, + the ] + there's ] a lot of inflation risk that isn't taken care of in most private pension plans. /  

aa          @@B.26 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa          @@B.26 utt2: yeah,  /
aa          @@B.26 utt3: that's true.  /
qy          @@B.26 utt4:  {C But, }  {F um, } are you involved with the legislature up there,  /
%          @@B.26 utt5: {C or } which, -/  

nn          A.27 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          A.27 utt2: I'm at the National Institute of Standards and Technology.    

b          B.28 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.29 utt1:  {F Uh, } part of the Commerce Department.    

bk          B.30 utt1:  Okay. /  

+          A.31 utt1:  Here in Gaithersburg, Maryland. /  

b          B.32 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sd          B.32 utt2:  I was just wondering since you said Washington D C,  /
sd          B.32 utt3: [ {C and } you, + {C and } you ] picked this topic,  /
sd          B.32 utt4: I was just <laughter> --   

%          A.33 utt1:  {D Well, } {D well } -- -/  

+          B.34 utt1:  -- kind of curious. /  

sd          A.35 utt1:  -- [ [ I, + I, ] + I ] didn't pick it, {F uh } -- /  

b          B.36 utt1:  {F Oh, } you didn't. /  

sd          A.37 utt1:  -- {E I mean, } {F um, } [ I, + {D like } I ] don't really recall.  /
sd          A.37 utt2:  I may have filled out [ on the, + on the ] form,  /
sd          A.37 utt3: {C but } [ I, + I ] [ certainly, + certainly ] have the feeling I've been given topics different from the ones that I mentioned before. /  

b          B.38 utt1:  {F Oh, } did you.  /
sd          B.38 utt2:  {D See, } I haven't placed any calls.  /
qy          B.38 utt3:  Did they automatically assign the topic? /  

ny          A.39 utt1:  Yes,  /
ny^r          A.39 utt2: yes,  /
sd^e          A.39 utt3: when you place a call --   

sd          B.40 utt1:  {F Oh, } I didn't --   

+          A.41 utt1:  -- topic is given to you. /  

+          B.42 utt1:  -- know that.  /
sd          B.42 utt2: I thought whoever made the call could choose what topic,  /
sd          B.42 utt3: {C because } I haven't made any calls yet.  /
sd          B.42 utt4: I've just received some. /  

ad          A.43 utt1:  {F Oh, } you should try it. /  

sd          B.44 utt1:  {F Oh, } I didn't realize that <laughter>.  /
aa          B.44 utt2: Okay.  /
aa          B.44 utt3:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.44 utt4: {C because } [ it's kind of a, + it can be a ] rather controversial subject depend on who you're talking to. /  

sd          A.45 utt1:  {F Uh, } many of the subjects are.  {F Uh, } [ taxes, + taxes ] especially.  /
sv          A.45 utt2:  {F Um, } one thing that has kept our tax burden high, {A and this will change somewhat in the next few years } [ is the, + is the ] level [ of def-, + of the defense ] budget -- /  

aa          B.46 utt1:  Exactly. /  

%          A.47 utt1:  -- {C and } [ that's, + that ] same subject, -/ 
