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FILENAME:	4152_1524_1608
TOPIC#:		341
DATE:		920311
TRANSCRIBER:	LAB
UTT_CODER:	TC
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TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	2
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
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REMARKS:        None.

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%          A.1 utt1: {D Well, } <lipsmack> {D anyway } [ I, + {F uh, } <breathing> I, ] {F uh, } {F oh, } - /
%          A.1 utt2: yeah.  /
sd          A.1 utt3: I did forget to ask you.  /
qw          A.1 utt4: What is your name by the way? /  

sd          B.2 utt1: {F Uh, } I'm Ann. /  

b^m          @A.3 utt1: {F Oh, } you're Ann.  /
fp          @A.3 utt2: Hi.  /
%          @A.3 utt3: {C But, } {F uh, } <lipsmack> {D anyway, } I, {F uh, } - /
sv          @A.3 utt4: <breathing> [ lot of, + lot of ] interesting procedural things I think would [ be a good, + be a good ] change if we're going to <breathing> be talking about the subject [ t-, + tonight ] which in some <lipsmack> I guess criminal courts the <breathing>, -/  

br^m          B.4 utt1:  Criminal courts?  /
aa          B.4 utt2:  # Yes. # /  

aa          A.5 utt1: # Yeah.  /
sd          A.5 utt2: # [ Th-, + the <lipsmack> one ] of which was, {F uh, } [ something, + something ] that's been going on because of the Rodney King trial here in town  /
sd          A.5 utt3: [ {C and } that is, + {F uh, } {C and } that is ] the exclusion of jurors because of or in spite of their race. {F Uh, } /  

bh          B.6 utt1:  {F Oh, } really? /  

ny          A.7 utt1: Yeah.  /
sd          A.7 utt2: {D Well, } [ [ [ they, + they, ] + {F uh, } the, ] + the ] people that (( )) - /
sd          A.7 utt3: [ the, + {F uh, } the ] jury that's trying, {F uh, } the officers in that case,   

b          B.8 utt1:  # Uh-huh. # /  

+          A.9 utt1: # [ is, + # is ] an all white panel.  /
sd          A.9 utt2: {C And } there's been a lot made in the local papers of that,   

b          B.10 utt1:  # I see. # /  

+          A.11 utt1:  # fact. # /  

%          B.12 utt1: I can't, - /
sv          B.12 utt2: I'm a little surprised they didn't get a change of venue on that one. /  

sd          A.13 utt1: They have.  /
sd^r          A.13 utt2: They have.  /
sd          A.13 utt3: They moved it up to the county north of here. /  

b          B.14 utt1: Oh. /  

sd          A.15 utt1: {F Um, } it's in Ventura  /
sd          A.15 utt2: {C and } [ there's, + there's ] still quite a bit of publicity obviously,  /
sv          A.15 utt3: {C and } [ it's kind of, + it's kind of ] debatable whether you could get a fair trial almost anywhere because [ that, + {F uh, } that, ] -/  

sv          B.16 utt1: {D Well, } that videotape was just horrible. /  

b          A.17 utt1: Yeah.  /
sv          A.17 utt2: It was everywhere. /  

aa          B.18 utt1:  Yes. /  

%          A.19 utt1: {D So } {D you know, } - /
sv          A.19 utt2: {C and } [ I, + I ] think it would be very difficult to [ find someone, + {F uh, } find a panel ] that would [ be, + not have ] seen it [ and, + and ] known of what was going on. /  

aa          B.20 utt1: {F Oh, } I agree with you  /
sv          B.20 utt2: {C but } I can't imagine that they would do an all white jury without having some sort [ of, + of ] discrimination [ or, + or, ] {D you know, } {F uh, } appeal on not having a jury of his peers and all of that kind of stuff. /  

aa          A.21 utt1: Exactly.  /
%          A.21 utt2: {D You know, } {F um, } the <lipsmack> {D you know, } - /
sd          A.21 utt3: [ I, + I'm ] kind of torn on this issue.  /
sv          A.21 utt4: It's like they're saying {D well } on the one hand [ they're not, + he's not ] getting a jury of his peers which is in some ways I think true.  /
sv          A.21 utt5: {C But } on the other hand, [ it's, + it's ] also saying that white jurors [ are not going to, + are not going to ] convict. /  

b          B.22 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          A.23 utt1: {F Uh, } {D you know, } they're not going to do their job.  Which is - /
sv          A.23 utt2: [ the whole, + the whole point ] of being on a jury is to convict [ [ or, + or, ] + or, ] {F uh, } let go based on [ whether,   

aa          B.24 utt1:  # Exactly. # /  

+          A.25 utt1:  # or not # the person, + whether or not the evidence ] says,    

bf          B.26 utt1:  # Based on fact.  /
aa          B.26 utt2:  Right. # /  

+          A.27 utt1:  # that there's enough # <breathing>, /  

sv          B.28 utt1: How interesting.  /
%          B.28 utt2:  Oh.  /
qw          B.28 utt3: {D So } what's the prevailing thought within the community? /  

%          A.29 utt1:  # {F Um, } # /  

sv          B.30 utt1: # {E I mean } # you know, what the news media is going to make of it,  /
qw          B.30 utt2: {C but } what about the community? /  

%          A.31 utt1: They, {D well, } - /
sv          A.31 utt2: I guess it depends on who you talk to.  /
sd          A.31 utt3: [ I haven't talked to, + {F uh, } <lipsmack> I haven't talked to ] a whole lot of black people on it  /
sv          A.31 utt4: {C but } [ I, + I ] rather imagine [ there's, + there's ] some snickering about it.  And a lot of the usually fatalistic, {F uh, } here we go again folks,   

b          B.32 utt1:  # Uh-huh. # /  

+          A.33 utt1:  # kind of stuff. # /  

ba          B.34 utt1: {F Oh, } my goodness.  /
sv          B.34 utt2: That can't be good for Los Angeles either. /  

aa          A.35 utt1: <Breathing> No,  /
aa^r          A.35 utt2: no.  /
%          A.35 utt3: I, {D you know, } - /
sv          A.35 utt4: [ [ [ [ on, + on, ] + on ] + one hand ] + {D you know, } on the one hand ] you almost hope that they convict them because [ it's sm-, + they have ] that very strong piece of physical evidence <laughter> showing,   

aa          B.36 utt1:  # {F Oh, } exactly. # /  

+          A.37 utt1:  # these people # beating the heck out of this guy. {F Um, } /  

sv          B.38 utt1: Unfortunately that kind of thing is not limited to <lipsmack> a big city like Los Angeles.  /
sv          B.38 utt2: You're going to have it just about anywhere. /  

b          A.39 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

o*          B.40 utt1:  There. /*[[listen]]  

%          A.41 utt1:  {D Well, } -/  

sv          B.42 utt1:  {C But } [ that's, + that's ] interesting. /  

b          A.43 utt1: Yeah. {F Um } <noise>, /  

qo          B.44 utt1: What about the judge who's hearing the case?  /
qy          B.44 utt2: Is he going to be impartial?  /
qy          B.44 utt3: Is he going to,   

x          A.45 utt1:  <Sigh>.    

+          B.46 utt1:  be [ a go-, + a good ] adjudicator? /  

no          A.47 utt1: I don't know. {D You know, }  /
sd          A.47 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ] again there's [ [ something else tha-, + {D you know, } there was a ] + <lipsmack>, {F uh, } something else ] along those lines.  /
sd          A.47 utt3: There was a girl out here named ((Latausha Harlins)).  /
sd          A.47 utt4: I don't know if [ [ it's, + it's got, ] + it's got ] as much notoriety  /
sd          A.47 utt5: {C but } it's rather almost as infamous here [ as it was, + as it was ] with, {F uh, } the Rodney King problem.  /
sd          A.47 utt6: {F Um, } a girl walked into a Korean owned store <lipsmack>  /
sd          A.47 utt7: {C and, } {F uh, } [ they, + she ] had a dispute, black girl. /  

b          B.48 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.49 utt1: [ She, + she ] had some kind of a dispute over some orange juice [ with the, + with the ] owner of the store.  /
sd          A.49 utt2: The owner of the store popped her. /  

bh          B.50 utt1: {F Oh, } <laughter> really? /  

ny          A.51 utt1: Yeah.  /
%          A.51 utt2: [ {C And, } + {C and, } ] {F oh, } of course, they, - /
sd          A.51 utt3: {D you know, } the criminal case went up  /
sd          A.51 utt4: [ {C and, } + <breathing> {C and } ] the judge gave the woman who [ shot her, + shot the girl ] [ a, + {F uh, } {F uh, } practically a ] suspended sentence.  /
%          A.51 utt5: {E I mean } [ it was + --   

ba          B.52 utt1:  {F Oh, } my goodness. /  

+          A.53 utt1: -- it was ] just, - /
sd          A.53 utt2: she gave her no time in jail, {D you know, } all of these things  /
sd          A.53 utt3: {C and then, } {F oh, } [ [ there's + we have these, ] + we have ] people wondering around [ to-, + with ] petitions trying to get the judge, -/  

^2          B.54 utt1:  To get that judge recalled I would think. /  

aa          A.55 utt1:  Yeah.  /
aa^r          A.55 utt2:  Yeah. /  

%          B.56 utt1: {F Huh. }  /
sv          B.56 utt2: That's almost when you kind of wish that there where standardized sentences. /  

aa          A.57 utt1: Yeah.  /
sv          A.57 utt2: [ It would make, + it would make ] life easier. /  

aa          B.58 utt1:  # It would. # /  

b          A.59 utt1:  # Yeah. # /  

%          B.60 utt1:  # {F Uh, } #  /  

%          A.61 utt1:  # {C But, } # -/  

sd          B.62 utt1: [ you would know, + the whole world would know ] what you were facing.  /
sd          B.62 utt2: {C And then } it's a matter [ of, + of ] deciding, / 
