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FILENAME:	4617_1197_1638
TOPIC#:		341
DATE:		920408
TRANSCRIBER:	nk
UTT_CODER:	tc
DIFFICULTY:	1
TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	1
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	3
REMARKS:        Child talking through out B's conversation.

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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay. /  

sd          B.2 utt1: I say they, {F uh, } - /
sv          B.2 utt2: probably the best things to do [ is, + is ] tie them with a rope and throw them in the water #  /
sv          B.2 utt3: ((if they sink)) <laughter> # --    

b          A.3 utt1:  # I see.  /
bf          A.3 utt2: [ [ A # -- +    

+          B.4 utt1:  -- they're innocent {D right. } /  

+          A.5 utt1:  -- a ] good, + a good ] southern solution. /  

aa          B.6 utt1: <Laughter> Yeah.  /
qo          B.6 utt2: {F Uh, } {D so, } {F uh, } [ how do you, + how do you ] feel?  /
sd          B.6 utt3: [ Th-, + that's, ] of course, being facetious  /
%          B.6 utt4: {C but } <laughter>. -/  

b          A.7 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sv          A.7 utt2:  You'd have to say that. /  

x          B.8 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

h          A.9 utt1: {F Uh, } I don't know.  /
sd          A.9 utt2: [ The, + the ] things they asked to talk about were [ whether the, + {F uh, } whether the ] judge should be the one that does the, {F uh, } sentencing. /  

b          B.10 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.11 utt1: {C And } seems to me that [ that's, + I think that's ] the way it's done now.  /
h          A.11 utt2: {F Uh, } at least,   

x          B.12 utt1:  <Child_talking>.   

+          A.13 utt1:  my understanding of the law which isn't very good. /  

b          B.14 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.15 utt1: {F Uh, } it seems to me that the judge does it  /
sv          A.15 utt2: {C and } [ I, + I ] think that's probably all right in that they, {D you know, } maybe know what [ the, + the ] norm is --   

b          B.16 utt1:  <Child> Uh-huh. /  

+          A.17 utt1:  -- for a particular thing. /  

sv          B.18 utt1:  {C And, } I guess, also what the system will absorb <child_talking>. /  

b          A.19 utt1:  # Right. # /  

sv          B.20 utt1: # Probably # more tuned in to that.  /
sv          B.20 utt2: Possibly though on, {F uh, } capital cases like maybe the death penalty -- -/  

b          A.21 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.22 utt1: -- {F uh, } I'm kind of undecided on that whether the judge should have the sole, - /
sv          B.22 utt2: {E I mean } he could have {D like } a personal prejudice.  /
sd          B.22 utt3: {D You know, } judges are people like # everybody else # --   

aa          A.23 utt1:  # That's right. # /  

+          B.24 utt1: -- even though [ they're, + they're ] supposed to be impartial  /
%          B.24 utt2: {C but } # maybe, {F uh, } # -/  

sv          A.25 utt1: # {C And } I # think [ [ that may, + I, ] + that may ] be an exception as well.  /
%          A.25 utt2: {C Because } I think that, - /
qy          A.25 utt3: doesn't the jury decide on the death penalty rather [ than, + than ] # the judge? # /  

na          B.26 utt1: # [ [ I, + I ] think # that's, + I think that's ] the way it is. /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          B.28 utt1: {F Uh, } [ whether + [ they, + they ] decide whether ] or not [ they, + {F uh, } <child_talking> the accused ] or whatever would [ get the, + {F uh, } get the ] death penalty.  /
qy          B.28 utt2: Do they have a death penalty in California? <child_talking>.  /  

ny          A.29 utt1:  Yes.  /
sd^e          A.29 utt2:  # In # --   

b          B.30 utt1:  # Yeah. # /  

+          A.31 utt1:  -- fact, they're going to execute somebody at the end of this month. /  

b          B.32 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.33 utt1: {C And, } {F uh, } there's a big uproar going on right now. # {F Uh } # -- /  

b          B.34 utt1:  # Yeah. #  /
x          B.34 utt2:  <child_talking>.   

sd          A.35 utt1: -- the, {F uh, } Governor, {D you know, } has been trying to decide whether he's going to commute it or not. /  

b          B.36 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.37 utt1:  {D You know, }  it's someone who had, {F uh, }    

x          B.38 utt1:  <Child_talking>.   

+          A.39 utt1:  killed two teenage boys here in San Diego as a matter of fact. /  

b          B.40 utt1: Yeah.  /
%          B.40 utt2: I, - /
sd          B.40 utt3: something like that, I've got no problem with <inhaling> it. # {F Uh } # -- /  

b          A.41 utt1:  # Yeah. # /  

sv          B.42 utt1: -- I guess the way I think about it [ is <child_talking> not, + ] it shouldn't necessarily be thought of as revenge.  /
sv          B.42 utt2: It's just like if you've got {D like } a dog that's running wild and biting people -- /  

b          A.43 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

ad          B.44 utt1: -- put it to sleep, {D you know. }  /
ad          B.44 utt2: Just get it out, {D you know, }  /
sd          B.44 utt3: it's not able to fit in, {D you know } <child_talking>. /  

bf          A.45 utt1:  Something inexpensive. /  

aa          B.46 utt1: Yeah.  /
aa^r          B.46 utt2: Yeah,  /
aa          B.46 utt3: exactly <child_talking>.  /
sv          B.46 utt4: {F Uh, } I guess,   

x          A.47 utt1:  <Noise>.   

+          B.48 utt1: kind of the way I think about it also, is they just, - /
sd          B.48 utt2: if somebody gets the death penalty, [ they're, + they're ] judged guilty,  /
sd          B.48 utt3: they got the death penalty,  /
sv          B.48 utt4: they should have one year and one appeal. Cover all their bases with one appeal  /
sv          B.48 utt5: {C and } if not, {D you know, } [ don't, + don't ] let them sit up there on death row for, {D you know, } <laughter> fifteen years. /  

b          A.49 utt1: Yeah.  /
sd          A.49 utt2: I think this particular case has been like ten or fifteen years. /  

b          B.50 utt1: Uh-huh.  /
b          B.50 utt2: # Yeah,  /
%          B.50 utt3: that, # -/  

sd          A.51 utt1: # {C But } I guess # there have been several cases where people have been executed by mistake  /
sv          A.51 utt2: {C and } --   

aa          B.52 utt1:  Yeah.  /
aa          B.52 utt2: {F Oh, } # I'm sure </child_talking>. # /  

+          A.53 utt1:  -- # you'd hate # to be one of those. /  

b          B.54 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.55 utt1: The other thing they asked about was whether {F uh, } {F uh, } the verdict should be required to be unanimous.    

b          B.56 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.57 utt1: Which, again, I think is the way it is now. That [ all the, + all ] verdicts, - /
ar          A.57 utt2: {D well } maybe not.  /
sd          A.57 utt3: I don't know.  /
sv          A.57 utt4: At least in capital cases I'd think they'd have to be --   

sd          B.58 utt1:  I believe # it is # --   

+          A.59 utt1:  -- # unanimous. # /  

+          B.60 utt1: -- in capital.  /
sd          B.60 utt2: I think in {D like, } {F uh, } lesser cases it's {D like } ten out of twelve or five out of six, whatever <child>.    

b          A.61 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.62 utt1: How ever many is [ on, + sitting on ] a jury.  /
sd          B.62 utt2: [ I t-, + I believe ] that's the way it is.  /
sv          B.62 utt3: {C But } I'm pretty sure you're correct on capital cases. {F Uh } <child>, /  

b          A.63 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sd          A.63 utt2:  The paper here tonight had a thing about the Noriega trial.     

b          B.64 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.65 utt1: And that there's one juror that [ is, + is, ] {F uh, } different than the other eleven. /  

b          B.66 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.67 utt1: {C And, } {F uh, } <talking> <noise> they've only deliberated four hours or,   

x          B.68 utt1:  <Child_talking>.   

+          A.69 utt1:  something  /
sd          A.69 utt2: {C and } they say they're hopelessly deadlocked. /  

ba          B.70 utt1:  {F Oh, } no <laughter>. /  

sd          A.71 utt1: {C ((And)) } the judge told them # <laughter>, #   

x          B.72 utt1:  # <Laughter>. #   

+          A.73 utt1: they weren't hopelessly deadlocked yet <laughter>. /  

ad          B.74 utt1: <Laughter> <child_talking> I'm telling you, go one way or the other.  /
sv          B.74 utt2: [ That, + that's ] probably an expensive trial. # {F ((Uh)), } # /  

aa          A.75 utt1:  # Yeah. #  /
sd          A.75 utt2:  Six months so far they said. /  

b          B.76 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sv          B.76 utt2:  # Probably. # /  

%          A.77 utt1:  # {D So. } # -/  

b          B.78 utt1: Yeah.  /
sv          B.78 utt2: Probably.  /
sv          B.78 utt3: {D You know, } I'm not sure there's a number.  /
sv          B.78 utt4: It's probably {D like } thirty, forty thousand dollars a day <child_talking> {D you know, } worth of all the free for all. /  

sd          A.79 utt1: Maybe they could go [ with a, + with a ] nine hundred number and have people # dial in and give their, {F uh, } vote. # /  

b          B.80 utt1: # <Laughter> Yeah <laughter>.  /
b^r          B.80 utt2: # Yeah,  /
sd          B.80 utt3: [ that's, + that's ] been so long I've [ prac-, + practically ] forgot who Noriega was, # {D you know. } # /  

b          A.81 utt1:  # Right. # /  

sd          B.82 utt1: <Laughter> That has been going on <talking>.  /
sd          B.82 utt2: My, {F uh, } cousin is a F B I agent down in Miami. /  

bh          A.83 utt1:  {F Oh } really? /  

ny          B.84 utt1: Yeah.  /
sd          B.84 utt2: {C So } she <laughter> follows that stuff pretty closely.  /
%          B.84 utt3: # {C But, } {F uh, } # -/  

sv          A.85 utt1:  # That's interesting. # /  

b          B.86 utt1: <Talking> Yeah,  /
sd          B.86 utt2: she's not involved in [ that, + that ] case.  /
%          B.86 utt3: {C But } she does, -/  

qy          A.87 utt1: {D Well } have you ever served on a jury? /  

nn          B.88 utt1: No  /
sd^e          B.88 utt2: I haven't.  /
sd          B.88 utt3: I never have.  /
sd          B.88 utt4: My wife has  /
sd          B.88 utt5: {C but } [ I, + # I ] haven't. # /  

b          A.89 utt1: # Uh-huh.  /
sd          A.89 utt2: # I got called  /
sd          A.89 utt3: {C but } I, {F uh, } never, {F uh, } got selected for a jury <static>, /  

b          B.90 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.91 utt1:  I <cough> <<in background>> sat for [ tw-, + ten ] days --   

b          B.92 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.93 utt1:  -- in a court room while they went through the selection process, /  

x          B.94 utt1:  <Child_talking>.   

sd          A.95 utt1:  {C and } they had some guy that was, {F uh, } defending himself. /  

b          B.96 utt1:  Uh-huh. / 
