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qo          A.1 utt1:  {F Um, } what do you think <laughter> the major cause of air pollution or at least in the Boston areas, -/  

sd          @B.2 utt1:  {D Well, } [ [ the, + the, ] + the ] major cause it seems up here is exc-, - /
sd          @B.2 utt2: I live right on the ocean  /
sd          @B.2 utt3: {C so } it's kind of hard for me to tell what would happen if I lived in some of the valleys inland, /  

b          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.4 utt1:  {C but } the major cause here, {A and we always seem to, }    {A and it seems to be validated by the press, } is the car pollution.  /
sd          B.4 utt2: We don't have too much industrial pollution. /  

b          A.5 utt1:  Yeah,  /
b^r          A.5 utt2: yeah. /  

sd          B.6 utt1:  {F Uh, } car pollution seems to be the one  and only thing [ that, + that ] I can really put my finger on here. /  

sd          A.7 utt1:  {F Um, } that isn't the same in the Washington area because we don't have any major, {F um, } industry except for, {F uh, } government and services.   /
sd          A.7 utt2: {C And } [ the, + the ] transportation situation is such that, {F uh, } all the car pollution [ is, + is ] absolutely awful.  /
sd          A.7 utt3:  {F Um, } also the  [ (( worth ))  of the + ] hub of three airports - /
sd          A.7 utt4: in this general area there is, {F uh, } National, Dulles, and then, {F uh, } Baltimore,  Washington.  /
%          A.7 utt5: {C And } it, - /
sd          A.7 utt6: interestingly  some of the information I've been reading indicates that the amount of air pollution from, {F uh, } {F uh, } airplanes is extraordinary. /  

bh          B.8 utt1:  Is that so? /  

ny          A.9 utt1:  Yeah, /  

sd          B.10 utt1:  I didn't know that. /  

sv          A.11 utt1:  {C and } that's  (( always ))  something that, {D you know, } [ you just don't real, + you don't think  ] about. /  

sv          B.12 utt1:  {D Well, } most people talk about the noise pollution from airplanes rather than the air pollution. /  

%          A.13 utt1:  {C But }  the, {F uh, } - /
sv          A.13 utt2: apparently the air pollution and the fact that it's delivered right up in high altitudes --   

b          B.14 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.15 utt1:  -- is a very significant factor. /  

aa          B.16 utt1:  I would think so.  /
sd          B.16 utt2: {D You know, } {F uh, } [ i-, + I  guess it ] talked about all types of pollution.  /
sd          B.16 utt3:  I happen to [ r-, + just read ] something the other day at least in the Boston paper there were three things [ that, + that ] come to note.  /
sd          B.16 utt4: One, is that the carbon fluorides that are, <breathing> {F uh, } being released into the atmosphere are causing even a larger hole in the southern hemisphere in the ozone layer   /
%          B.16 utt5:  {C and } again - /
sd          B.16 utt6: {C and }   now they've located [ another one + {E or }  [ la-, + ]  {E rather }  an expanding one  ] in the northern hemisphere.  /
%          B.16 utt7:  {C So } car-, - /
sd          B.16 utt8: {C so } I'm quite concerned.  /
sv          B.16 utt9:  I don't think it's involved any longer [ with, + with, ] {F uh, } hair sprays or those th-, -/  

aa          A.17 utt1:  Yeah.  /
aa^r          A.17 utt2: Yeah. /  

b          B.18 utt1:  No,  /
sv          B.18 utt2: I think [ it's + now,  [ is what, + {F uh, } from what ] I understand it's  ] air conditioning units  /
sv          B.18 utt3: [ {C and, } + {C and, } ]   

b          A.19 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.20 utt1:  we certainly turned into an air conditioned --   

^2@          A.21 utt1:  Society <laughter>,     

+          B.22 utt1:  -- <Laughter> society. /  

+@          A.23 utt1:  has especially recently <laughter>. /  

aa          B.24 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.24 utt2: I know in Florida there's no place you go that isn't air conditioned,  /
sd          B.24 utt3: {C and } I do quite a bit of business in Washington.  /
%          B.24 utt4: {C And, }  -/  

qw          A.25 utt1:  {E I mean } {D you know } what it's like here. -/  

ny          B.26 utt1:  {F Oh, } yeah,  /
%          B.26 utt2: it's quite, - /
%          B.26 utt3: [ is, + is ] the un-, - /
sv          B.26 utt4:  it's really  out of the norm not to find something that isn't air conditioned.  /
%          B.26 utt5:  {C And, } -/  

aa          A.27 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa^r          A.27 utt2: yeah,  /
aa^r          A.27 utt3: yeah. /  

sv          B.28 utt1:  {C and }  # I guess refrigerators, #   

%          A.29 utt1:  # We just had the, # -/  

+          B.30 utt1:  are the same way.  /
sv          B.30 utt2:  They release that. /  

aa          A.31 utt1:  That's right.   /
sv          A.31 utt2: {C So, } solutions to this,   

b          B.32 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.33 utt1:  would be - /
%          A.33 utt2:  [ I, + I,  ] -/  

%          B.34 utt1:  {D Well, } /  

%          A.35 utt1:  {D you know, } improved. - /
sd          A.35 utt2: {D Well, } I guess [ [ the fur-, + the, ] + to me the first ] thing is I wish society would get as upset about this as you do get, getting people upset about animal rights. /  

b          B.36 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.37 utt1:  {E I mean } this is [ so, + so ] basic.  /
sv          A.37 utt2:  It's human rights in the sense,  /
sv          A.37 utt3: {C but, }  {F uh, } in terms of demanding, it's just not caused - /
sv          A.37 utt4: {C but } demanding that, {F uh, } we can spend so much money on certain things  but that research really be directed toward, {F um, } improvement of polluting vehicles, and not just cars but also buses, {F um, } planes.   That something can be done.  {E I me-, } I can't imagine that  (( {D well } )) , /  

%          B.38 utt1:  {D Well, } [ I, + I ] th-, -/  

sv          A.39 utt1:  if we can't send people to the moon,   

b          B.40 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.41 utt1:  that we can't improve these things. -/  

b          B.42 utt1:  No,  /
sv          B.42 utt2: I think that it can be done simply because, {F uh, } {F uh, } [   we've, +  we've, ] - /
sd          B.42 utt3: every car now in America that's been produced for the past fifteen years has what they call a catalytic converter. /  

b^m          A.43 utt1:  Converter,  /
b          A.43 utt2: yeah,  /
b          A.43 utt3: uh-huh. /  

sd          B.44 utt1:  {C And } no lead gas [ was, + came ] to the pumps.  /
sd          B.44 utt2: [ {C And, } +  {C and } ] that's been done.  /
sv          B.44 utt3: There's the lead pollution [ has, + ] that problem, essentially I guess because it was at crisis proportions [ was, +   

b          A.45 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.46 utt1:  was ] licked.  /
sv          B.46 utt2:  {C And } I think that [ there are + [ th-, + there ] are ] solutions, /  

%          A.47 utt1:  {C And } # that  ((   ))  for buses, # -/  

sv          B.48 utt1:  # certainly we don't even [ need a, + # need a ] research anymore.  /
sv          B.48 utt2:  It's just a matter of passing the law,  /
sv          B.48 utt3: {C and } passing the law depends on how heavy [ the car industry, + the automobile lobby ] is. /  

aa          A.49 utt1:  That's right.  /
sv          A.49 utt2: {D Well, } and also to make it economically feasible.    

aa          B.50 utt1:  That's right.  /
aa^r          B.50 utt2: That's right. /  

+          A.51 utt1:  {F Uh, } and [ per-, + ] [ ti-, + ] also in buses.  /
qy^d          A.51 utt2: I don't know if you ever got caught in a traffic jam behind a bus, /  

ny          B.52 utt1:  {F Oh, } yeah,  {D well, } /  

%          A.53 utt1:  That, {D you know, } -/  

sv          B.54 utt1: [ [ [ That, + that, ] + the, ] + the ] smell is awful  /
sd          B.54 utt2: [ {C and } + {C but, } ] {D you know, } I was reading the other day not to go on with this but that,   

b          A.55 utt1:   Uh-huh.  /
b          A.55 utt2:  Yeah. /  

+          B.56 utt1:  diesel fumes actually have less pollutants in them than gasoline fumes. /  

b          A.57 utt1:   Uh-huh,  /
b^r          A.57 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sv          B.58 utt1:  {C So, } I guess you're <laughter> better off sitting behind a bus than a car although [ I can never, + I could never, ] {F uh, } really [ [ a-, + a-, ] + ] rationalize that while I was sitting there <laughter>. /  

aa          A.59 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.59 utt2: {C but } even, of course, in the longer term just to get away from fossil fuels. -/  

b          B.60 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.61 utt1:  {E I mean, } [ I'm, + I'm ] thinking of research in that direction rather than - /
sv          A.61 utt2: [ we, + we've ] taken the intermediate step  /
sv          A.61 utt3: {C but } I don't think,   

%          B.62 utt1:  {D Well, }  we, {D you know } -- -/  

+          A.63 utt1:  fossil fuels are the answer. /  

%          B.64 utt1:  -- up here in New England, {F uh, } where  I've, - /
sd          B.64 utt2: right close to where I live is the  (( Seabrook ))  Nucleus site which is,   

b          A.65 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.66 utt1:  practically a, {D you know, } guerilla war up here,    

b          A.67 utt1:   Yes  /
%          A.67 utt2: I me-, -/  

+          B.68 utt1:  went on for years.  /
sd          B.68 utt2:  {F Uh, } my daughters marched [ in the, + {F uh, } {F uh, } against the ] (( Seabrook ))  /
%          B.68 utt3: {C and } I kind of, {F uh, } -/  

x          A.69 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sd          B.70 utt1:  my feelings were that we needed this bridge [ [ to, +   

b          A.71 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          B.72 utt1:  to, ] + {F uh, } to ] [ [  m-, + m-, ] + jump ] [ from whatever it was going to be, + from fossil fuel to whatever it was going to be. ] /  

b          A.73 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.73 utt2: you don't throw the baby out with the bath water,    

b          B.74 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.75 utt1:  and condemning nuclear use. /  

sv          B.76 utt1: [ Un-, + unfortunately ] though I think the oil companies have lied to us for years <laughter>. /  

aa          A.77 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa^r          A.77 utt2: yeah. /  

sv          B.78 utt1:  {C So } we really don't know whether there's enough fossil fuel left  /
sv          B.78 utt2: {C or } there isn't,  /
%          B.78 utt3: [ {C and, } +  {F uh, } {C and, } ] {F uh, } -/  

sv          A.79 utt1:  {C But } with the pollution issue, {F uh, } fossil fuel is not the way to go anyway. /  

aa          B.80 utt1:  No. /  

sv          A.81 utt1:  {F Uh, } {C so } [ you've, to lo-, + you've got to look ] elsewhere. /  

b          B.82 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv         A.83 utt1:  [ {C So, } + {F uh, } {C but } ] it is something that's a little frightening  /
%         A.83 utt2: {C and } in fact, {D well, }  I, - /
sd          A.83 utt3: within our family we have said, - /
%          A.83 utt4: my husband, - /
sd          A.83 utt5: I have two sons, {F uh, }  {D well, }  /
sd          A.83 utt6: one is already in college in New England, /  

b          B.84 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.85 utt1:  {C and } the other will be going in September,  /
sd          A.85 utt2: {C and } we just feel that when we leave, {F uh, } this area, [ w-, + we're ] going north, not south. /  

b          B.86 utt1:  Yes. /  

sd          A.87 utt1:  {F Uh, } I like the mentality north,  /
sd          A.87 utt2: {C and } I also like the fresher air up there. /  

aa          B.88 utt1:  That's right. /  

sd          A.89 utt1:  {C So, } {E I mean } that's the way we will be going. /  

b          B.90 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.91 utt1: [ {C But, } + {F um, } {C so, } ] [ [ I, + i-, ] + I'd ] be interested in having spoken with somebody also from the far west on this issue to see how [ they, + their ] attitudes are. /  

sd          B.92 utt1:  {D Well, } [ since, + since ] Texas and Louisiana and, {F uh, } California [ that, + in that ] ranking order, the worst pollutants in America. -/  

b          A.93 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.94 utt1:  {E I mean, } I read that the other day.  /
sv          B.94 utt2: {E I mean } [ Louisi-, + Louisiana ] for a small state [ w-, + ] it was amazing  /
sv          B.94 utt3: {C but } it's the industrial pollution I should imagine. /  

b          A.95 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.96 utt1:  {C And } California seems to be taking steps,  /
sd          B.96 utt2: {E I mean, } [ you, + you ] read about [ the, + the ]  [ (( fairly )) , +   

^2         A.97 utt1:  The smog and, - /
%          A.97 utt2: yeah. /  

+          B.98 utt1:  fairly  ] stiff laws they put in on cars now [ they're, + they're ] enforcing. /  

b          A.99 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b          A.99 utt2: yeah. /  

sv          B.100 utt1:  {C But, }  {F uh, } again, {F uh, } that didn't occur without a crisis.  /
sv          B.100 utt2: Nothing will occur, I guess, without a crisis. /  

sv         A.101 utt1:  {E I mean, }  (( even ))  California was notorious for its smog # years ago, #    

aa          B.102 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
aa         B.102 utt2: exactly. # /  

+          A.103 utt1:  before it even was an issue,   

aa          B.104 utt1:  Exactly. /  

+          A.105 utt1:  out here. /  

sv          B.106 utt1:  {D Well, } the greatest thing that happened to pollution in the last couple of years as far as I'm concerned, is the no smoking rules,    

x          A.107 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

+          B.108 utt1:  on airplanes and in restaurants.  /
sv          B.108 utt2: {C And } [ it, + it ] really is a pleasure for me, although, I guess smokers don't <laughter> think that.  /
sv          B.108 utt3: # {C But } that, #   

sv          A.109 utt1:  # {D Well, } [ [ [ that, + # that's, ] +   

+          B.110 utt1:  to me was pollution  ((   )) , /  

+          A.111 utt1:  that's person-, ] + that's personal ] air pollution <laughter>. /  

sv          B.112 utt1:  that was its most [ personal, +   

aa          A.113 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa^r          A.113 utt2: yes. /  

+          B.114 utt1:  personal, ] {F uh, } pollution that I can think of. /  

aa          @@A.115 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa          @@A.115 utt2: {D well, } [ I, + I, ] [  d-, + definitely ] advance that.  /
fc          @@A.115 utt3: {D Well, } listen I enjoyed speaking with you. /  

fc          B.116 utt1:  Surely. /  

fc          A.117 utt1:  {C And } let's hope [ some, + there  are other ] people that feel the same way <laughter>. /  

fc          B.118 utt1:   ((   ))  something happen. - /
fc          B.118 utt2: Right on,  /
fc          B.118 utt3: thank you. /  

fc          A.119 utt1:  You're welcome. /  

fc          B.120 utt1:  # Bye-bye. # /  

fc^m          A.121 utt1:  # Bye-bye. # / 
