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%          A.1 utt1:  {F Um, } I  think life, {F uh, } - /
sd          A.1 utt2: {D now }  I grew up on a farm,  /
%          A.1 utt3: I don't, - /
%         A.1 utt4: what kind - /
qy          A.1 utt5: did you (( grow up ))  in the farm. /  

%          B.2 utt1:  I grew up in, {F um, } - /
nd          B.2 utt2: {D well, } at that time I was in a, {F uh, }  (( Trenton )) , New Jersey  /
sd          B.2 utt3: {C so, }  {C and } it was a suburb of  (( Trenton )) ,  /
sd          B.2 utt4: {C so } I really had mixture of suburb,   

b          A.3 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

+          B.4 utt1:  # and # urban living. /  

bk@          A.5 utt1: [ I see, + I  see, ] {D well } [ lit-, + little ] bit different. /  

b          B.6 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.7 utt1:  I think though it was much slower and, {F uh, } much more self-contained. /  

aa          B.8 utt1:  I think you're right.  /
sv          B.8 utt2:  It's interesting  /
sd          B.8 utt3: [ I'm, + {F um, } I ] work in a high school. /  

b          A.9 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.10 utt1:  {C So, } {F uh, } I'm comparing my life when I was in high school thirty years ago to what I see these children doing. /  

b          A.11 utt1:  Yes. /  

sd          B.12 utt1:  {C And } the pressures on the children, {F uh, } {D you know, } - /
sv          B.12 utt2: you hear this as an excuse,  /
sv          B.12 utt3:  {C but } it's true they are so much greater. /  

sv          A.13 utt1: [ Unreal, + unreal ] by comparison. /  

sd          B.14 utt1:  {F Oh, } I cannot believe, {F uh, } what they're doing, {F uh, }  academically the demands on them  /
sd          B.14 utt2: [ {C and, } + {F uh, } {C and } ] I can see why children do drop out. /  

aa          A.15 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa          A.15 utt2: I think that's right. /  

%          B.16 utt1:  [ I can see, +  I can see  ] the, {F uh, } {D you know, } -/  

sd          A.17 utt1: [ I, + I ] can remember as a child, {D you know, } nobody ever worried about me wondering out at night and going where I wanted to go. /  

b          B.18 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.18 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd          A.19 utt1: [ It wasn't, + it didn't ] occur to nobody to worry that anything would happen to me  /
%          A.19 utt2: they were, -/  

sd          B.20 utt1:  {C And } [ [ you, + you ] didn't, + you didn't ] have to lock your door. /  

aa          A.21 utt1:  No,  /
aa^r          A.21 utt2: no. /  

%          B.22 utt1:  {C And, }  {F uh, } a lo-, - /
sd          B.22 utt2: some of these are urban worries  /
sv          B.22 utt3: {C but, }  {F uh, } [ it's, + {F uh, } it's ] a lot different  all though I guess twenty years a go now, in this area, things were, {F um, } similar because twenty years ago - /
^h          B.22 utt4: let's see,  /
%          B.22 utt5: it was after, -/  

qh          A.23 utt1:  It's not all that long ago is it <laughter>. /  

b         B.24 utt1:  {D yeah, }  to - /
sd          B.24 utt2: [ twenty, + twenty-five ] years ago is when we had the Washington riots, /  

b          A.25 utt1:  # Uh-huh,  /
b^r          A.25 utt2: uh-huh.  # /  

sd          B.26 utt1:  # the first # rights we've been having some problem now  /
sd          B.26 utt2: {C and } it reminded me of that. /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.27 utt2: we were living in New Jersey.    

b          B.28 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.29 utt1:  {F Uh, } [ in, + ] twenty years ago. /  

qw          B.30 utt1:  Whereabouts? /  

sd          A.31 utt1:  In  (( Allendale )) . /  

b          B.32 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.33 utt1:  {C And, }  {F uh, } I use to have to go over to Patterson when those riots were going on,   

b          B.34 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

+          A.35 utt1:  # [ at # + ] sometimes.  /
h          A.35 utt2: {F Um,  } I don't know though  /
sd          A.35 utt3: [ it's, + it's ] kind of hard to really know because of - /
sv          A.35 utt4: though the news media had those riots, {F uh, } kind of blown up out of proportion. -/  

b          B.36 utt1:  # Uh-huh,  /
%          B.36 utt2: {D well, } # -/  

sd          A.37 utt1:  # {C because } I # went there many times  /
%          A.37 utt2: {C and, } -/  

sd          B.38 utt1:  the Washington riots weren't,  /
%          B.38 utt2:  {C because } <laughter>, -/  

sd@          A.39 utt1: [ I never, + I never ] saw a riot.   

sd^r          B.40 utt1:  The Washington riots weren't  /
sd          B.40 utt2: {C because }  I lived right downtown,   

+@          A.41 utt1:  # Did you? # /  

+          B.42 utt1:  # Washington  /
sd          B.42 utt2: [ {C and, } +  # {F uh, } <laughter>  {C and  } ] what you saw [ is + was ] what you got <laughter>.  /
o          B.42 utt3: I'm telling you. /  

%          A.43 utt1:  That's what, - /
%          A.43 utt2: yeah,  /
%          A.43 utt3: {D well. } -/  

b          B.44 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.44 utt2: {C but, } {D you know, } [ it's, + it is ] interesting,  {F uh, }  /
%          B.44 utt3: they're so many mor-, - /
sv          B.44 utt4:  they're different kind of dangers that face young people now and social pressures, {F uh, }  /
sv          B.44 utt5: the pressures of drug is so much,  /
sv          B.44 utt6: the prevalence is so much  greater, /  

b          A.45 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

sv          B.46 utt1:  # [ the, # + the ] kinds of diseases that you've got out the, {F uh, } {F um, } -/  

b          A.47 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

sv          B.48 utt1:  # {E I # mean } the consequences is - /
sv          B.48 utt2: so much of what's going on,

aa          A.49 utt1:  # I think that's true,  /
aa^r          A.49 utt2: I think that's true.  # /  

+           B.50 utt1:  # is so much more serious then when we # were younger. /  

sv          A.51 utt1:  I think the other thing is that, {F uh, } we have taken some rather drastic turns [ in our, + in our ] education and the way we approach things as of maybe starting back [ when, + when ] I'm number one, {D you know, } and, {F uh, } {F uh, } {F uh, } worrying about self  and not, {F uh, } seeing the consequences of the disintegration of the family. /  

aa          B.52 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa^r          B.52 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sv          A.53 utt1: [ {C And, } + {F uh, } {C and } ] there have been many things that have happened that have not encouraged closeness of families and, {F uh, } support for young people [ that + ] the kind of support that they need,   

aa          B.54 utt1:  # Yes,  /
%          B.54 utt2: {C and, }  # -/  

+          A.55 utt1:  # to help # them take care of the things,  /
sv          A.55 utt2: if you don't have some kind [ of, + of ] basic believe or something down inside of you,   

b          B.56 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

+          A.57 utt1:  # then # it's very difficult to, {F uh, } have anything to turn to,   

aa          B.58 utt1:  # That's true.  # /  

+          A.59 utt1:  [ # when you # got, + when you've got ] something facing you like that. /  

sd          B.60 utt1:  I also being involved in the school system see so many of the problem children coming from their parents, {F um, }  children who will lie and cheat  /
sv          B.60 utt2: {C and } you approach their parents,  /
sv          B.60 utt3: {C and } their parents are constantly justify them rather then to, -/  

b          A.61 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

sv          B.62 utt1:  # {F uh, } # {D you know, } they're constantly,   

%          A.63 utt1:  # {D Like }  ((   )) . # -/  

+          B.64 utt1:  # excusing their, #   

b          A.65 utt1:  # Right.  # /  

+          B.66 utt1:  # child #  /
sv          B.66 utt2: {C and } you can see exactly,   

aa          A.67 utt1:  # Yeah  /
aa          A.67 utt2: exactly.  # /  

+          B.68 utt1:  # why the # child is that way.  /
sv          B.68 utt2:  You [ can +  as a teacher,  can't  ] hold a child accountable,   

b         A.69 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

+          B.70 utt1:  # if # you're not going to get reinforced by,   

aa          A.71 utt1:  # That's right.  # /  

+          B.72 utt1:  # that at # home. /  

aa^r          A.73 utt1:  that's right. /  

sv          B.74 utt1:  {C And } you can't make up in a classroom of one hour a day,   

aa          A.75 utt1:  # No.  # /  

+          B.76 utt1:  # what's # not been done for,   

aa          A.77 utt1:  # That's right.  # /  

+          B.78 utt1:  # fifteen or # sixteen years at home, /  

b          A.79 utt1:  # Oh.  # /  

sv          B.80 utt1:  # {C and } # [ you're, + you ] get mixed signals  /
sv          B.80 utt2: {C so }  [ it's, + it's ] not always the school's systems  /
%          B.80 utt3:  I think a lot of, # - /
sv@          B.80 utt4: it is the families, #    

aa          A.81 utt1:  # No,  /
sv          A.81 utt2: there's so much # more, then that  /
sv          A.81 utt3: it starts,   

+@          B.82 utt1:  the way you were mentioning,  /
%          B.82 utt2: yeah. /  

+          A.83 utt1:  very much deeper then that  /
aa          A.83 utt2:  I think that too.  /
sd          A.83 utt3:  I see some flickers [ [ of, + of, ] + {F uh, } of ] good directions turning, /  

b          B.84 utt1:  #  (( No )) . # /  

sv          A.85 utt1:  # {C but } # whether they're soon enough  and fast enough I don't know,  /
%          A.85 utt2: it's   just, -/  

sv          B.86 utt1:  Of course, life is a lot more complicated too in ways, {F um, }  /
sv          B.86 utt2: the kinds of jobs that people need to be trained,   

b          A.87 utt1:  # Right.  # /  

+          B.88 utt1:  # for # now. - /
sv          B.88 utt2: {F Uh, } {D you know, } with farming being so mechanized,    

b          A.89 utt1:  # Uh-huh.  # /  

+          B.90 utt1:  # {F uh, } # people working on the family farm which was a traditional American way that becomes less and less likely,  /
sv          B.90 utt2: factory jobs are so much more, {F um, } {F uh, } sophisticated. /  

aa          A.91 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa          A.91 utt2: that's right. /  

%          B.92 utt1:  {C And } the kinds of knowledge that, {F uh, } {D you know, } - /
sv          B.92 utt2: [  it, +  it's ]  requiring an increasingly sophisticated labor force  /
sv          B.92 utt3: {C and, }   

b          A.93 utt1:  # Right.  # /  

+          B.94 utt1:  # some # people just don't have it. /  

sv          A.95 utt1:  {C And } there's [ [ so much, + so, ] + so many ] people on the lower  end of those [ who, + who ] are going to be [ the, + the ] drop outs [ and the, +   

sv          B.96 utt1:  # {C And } you worry when, #   

+          A.97 utt1:  # and the ] poor and # the homeless and whatnot, /  

+          B.98 utt1:  {D you know } [ these + the ] sex and drugs on the young children and the unborn children, -/  

aa          A.99 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
%          A.99 utt2: that's just another, # -/  

sv          B.100 utt1:  # {F uh, } in terms of # what it's going to mean to a society,   

b          A.101 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

+          B.102 utt1:  # in # the future it's a - /
sv          B.102 utt2: some ways it's rather frightening, /  

aa          A.103 utt1:  It really is  /
sv          A.103 utt2: [ it's just, + it just is ] almost overwhelming sometimes when you think,   

aa          B.104 utt1:  # It certainly is.  # /  

+          A.105 utt1:  # [ of, + of ] the # jobs that is out there to be done,    

aa          B.106 utt1:  # {D Well, } it sure is.  # /  

+          A.107 utt1:  # in order to flip # things back around the way they needed to be, /  

aa^r          B.108 utt1:  It sure is. /  

sd          A.109 utt1:  {F Uh, } not that I really think that they were perfect ten, twenty, or thirty years ago,  /
%          A.109 utt2: {C but, } -/  

qy^g          B.110 utt1:  It was a little easier though wasn't it? /  

ny          A.111 utt1:  {F Uh, } yeah,  /
sv^e          A.111 utt2: just the volume makes a big difference, /  

b          B.112 utt1:  # Yes.  # /  

sv          A.113 utt1:  # [ I # think + [ as, {F uh, } + as, ] {F uh, } mother {D you know, } I use to think  ] sometimes [ it's not so much, + {F uh, } it's not so much ] the kids,  /
sv          A.113 utt2: it's just the volume of it,    

o@          B.114 utt1:  # Yeah.  #   

+          A.115 utt1:  # to # try to keep all wash done  and all the things done [ and, + {D you know, } and ]   everything. /  

+@          B.116 utt1:  And all the things demanded of the mother too {E I mean, } /  

b          A.117 utt1:  # Right.  # /  

sd          B.118 utt1:  # {F uh, } # I look at my mother's life  /
sd          B.118 utt2: {E I mean }  [ she, + she ]  didn't work, {F um, } {F um, }  /
sd          B.118 utt3: for a long time [ whe-, + when ] I was very young she didn't drive.  /
sd          B.118 utt4:  {F Uh, } she learned to drive I think when I was, {F um, } a teenager,  /
sv          B.118 utt5: {C and } her life was a lot simpler, /  

sv          A.119 utt1:  # Right [ {C and, }  # +   

sd          B.120 utt1:  # {C and } I # sit here, /  

+          A.121 utt1:  {C and }  ] children's lives were simpler because mother was  there,  /
sv          A.121 utt2: somebody was there. /  

aa          B.122 utt1:  That's right. /  

sv          A.123 utt1: [ {C And, } +  {C and } ] when there's nobody there, -/  

aa          B.124 utt1:  # That's right,  /
aa^r          B.124 utt2: that's right.  # /  

sv          A.125 utt1:  # I always thought too # that, {D you know, } people worrying about going to work [ when their child, + when their children ] are little - /
sv          A.125 utt2: [ {C and } I, + {C and } I ] think that's sad if they have to because they miss so much,  /
sv          A.125 utt3: {C but } [ I, + I ] believed after having a few teenagers that the worst time you could [ go,   

sv          B.126 utt1:  # They need  (( you more as a teenager )) . # /  

+          A.127 utt1:  # to + go  ] work was when they were # teenagers. /  

qh          B.128 utt1:  Isn't that true.  /
sd          B.128 utt2: That's why I'm working in a school system so that I'm home when they're home.  /
%          B.128 utt3: {F Um, } /  

aa          A.129 utt1:  Right,  /
sv          A.129 utt2: it's not so much that they come to you every minute,  /
sv          A.129 utt3: {C but } it's that you are there when they need you. /  

%          B.130 utt1:  That's exac-, - /
%         B.130 utt2: isn't that, - /
aa          B.130 utt3: that's so true, /  

b          A.131 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

sd          B.132 utt1:  # {F uh, } # {F uh, } I find working in a high school is very helpful because it let's me be a little more tolerant and understanding of what people do, /  

b          A.133 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

sd          B.134 utt1:  # {C and } # it keeps me from being the old  (( fogy ))   /
sd          B.134 utt2: {C so, }  {C but } at the same time,   

x          A.135 utt1:  # <Laughter>.  #   

+          B.136 utt1:  # it # also it prevents kids from try to go pull the wool over your eyes, /  

aa          A.137 utt1:  # Yes,  /
aa          A.137 utt2: I think <laughter>  that's true.  # /  

%          B.138 utt1:  # as to what's com-, - /
sv          B.138 utt2: {C but }  (( that's ))  # the same  /
sd          B.138 utt3: I'm home in the summers,  /
sd          B.138 utt4: I'm home with the holidays, /  

b          A.139 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
%         A.139 utt2: that's, # -/  

sd          B.140 utt1:  # I'm home # at three o clock when the children are at home  /
%          B.140 utt2: {C or } where home, -/  

b          A.141 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

sd          B.142 utt1:  # one # is now a senior in high school and the other's in college, /  

%          A.143 utt1:  # {D Well, } # -/  

%          B.144 utt1:  # {C and, }  # {F uh, } -/  

qy^d          A.145 utt1:  {C But } that helps a lot, /  

na          B.146 utt1:  # [ [ It's, + {F uh, } it, ] + {F uh, } it ] does, # /  

sd          A.147 utt1:  # I have a daughter who just # had a second job,   /
sd          A.147 utt2: she needed to work  /
sd          A.147 utt3: {C and } he opted to go into a day care center where she could have her children  with her.    

b          B.148 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.148 utt2: uh-huh. /  

+          A.149 utt1: [ And, + {F uh, } and ] looked a long time before she found one that was laid back enough  so [ they + she ] would be able to interact with them, /  

aa          B.150 utt1:  # That's right.  # /  

%          A.151 utt1:  # [ {C and, } + {F uh, } # {C and so } ] I, - /
sd          A.151 utt2: ((   )) , {D you know, } good kind of experience as well  /
%          A.151 utt3: {C but, }  {F uh, } -/  

%          B.152 utt1:  # {D Well } I, # -/  

sv          A.153 utt1:  # I think # that's really important  /
sv          A.153 utt2: I don't think people realize how important it is. /  

aa          B.154 utt1: [ [ That's, + that is, ] + that is ] so true, /  

b          A.155 utt1:  # Yeah, {F uh, } # /  

sv          B.156 utt1:  # {C and } it's # not [ that always + that the children always ]  say something  /
sv          B.156 utt2: {C but } every once in awhile they'll come up and make a comment, /  

b          A.157 utt1: # Yeah. # /  

sv          B.158 utt1:  # {C and } # you realize it's important that, {F uh, } - /
sv          B.158 utt2: {C and } yet, {D you know, } we have to make that choice  /
sv          B.158 utt3: I think twenty, thirty years ago a lot of women,   

b          A.159 utt1:  # Yeah.  # /  

+          B.160 utt1:  # just # didn't have to make that choice. /  

aa          @@A.161 utt1:  I think that's right.  /
qw          @@A.161 utt2: [  What was, + what was ] your name again? /  

%          B.162 utt1:  {D Well, } I, - /
sd          B.162 utt2: Linda Lee. /  

bk^m          A.163 utt1:  Linda. /  

b          B.164 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

bk          A.165 utt1:  Okay. /  

qw^d          B.166 utt1:  {C And } your name was? /  

fc^t          A.167 utt1:  {D Well } I think probably that we've just about <laughter>. -/  

fc          B.168 utt1:  <Laughter>  {D Well } I enjoyed,   

fc          A.169 utt1:  # I'm going to, #   

+          B.170 utt1:  # talking with you.  # /  

+          A.171 utt1:  change the world  /
%          A.171 utt2: {C but, }  {F uh, } -/  

fc^r          B.172 utt1:  {D Well, } I enjoyed talking with you. /  

fc          A.173 utt1:  Yes,  /
fc          A.173 utt2: it's nice talking to you, too. /  

fc          B.174 utt1:  # Okay.  # /  

fc          A.175 utt1:  # Bye # now. /  

fc          B.176 utt1:  Bye-bye. / 
