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FILENAME:	2471_1148_1239
TOPIC#:		346
DATE:		910406
TRANSCRIBER:	khb
UTT_CODER:	mlg
DIFFICULTY:	1
TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	5
ECHO_FROM_A:	3
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:        There is noise from children playing in the background on
side A through most of the conversation.  Also, B is a very noisy breather.

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sd          A.1 utt1:  {D Well, } we haven't really heard that much in the news lately, about, {F uh, } U S involvement in Latin America, since, {F uh, } all this Middle East crisis began.  /
sd          A.1 utt2: {C So } I haven't really paid that much attention {D like, } since back in August when all of the news and all of the media began to focus in on, {F uh, } Iraq,  /
sd          A.1 utt3: {C and, } the, [ so + ] the last thing that I remember hearing that much about is the Iran Contra scandal that happened in the Reagan presidency.  /
qy          A.1 utt4: Can you think of anything else that's happened recently? /  

nn          B.2 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          B.2 utt2: I would agree with you.  /
sv          B.2 utt3:  We haven't had too much,  /
sv          B.2 utt4: {C but, } {F uh, } historically, we've always, {F uh, } almost been like a big brother  [ [ to, + in, ] + {C and } to ] the Latin American area, and, {F uh, } almost used them, -/  

x          A.3 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

%          B.4 utt1:  [ [ I, + I,  ] + I  ] feel. -/  

b          A.5 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.6 utt1:  {F Uh, } I think something will have to be done down there very soon  [ about, + {F uh, } about  ] Mexico [ and, + and, ] {F uh, } some of the other areas,  /
sv          B.6 utt2: [ {C but, } + {C but, }  ] with the Persian Gulf, as you said, it's just, {F uh, } been very quiet.  /
sd          B.6 utt3:  [ I, + I  ] keep pretty close tabs on the paper  /
sv          B.6 utt4: {C and } you don't hardly see a, - /
sd          B.6 utt5: unless it's there and we're just not seeing it. /  

sd          A.7 utt1:  {D Well, } the only, {F uh, } references that I have seen lately has been, {F uh, } in, part of - /
sd          A.7 utt2: the overmilitarization of Iraq was due to companies selling them arms and things,  /
sv          A.7 utt3: [ {C and, } +   

b          B.8 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.9 utt1:  {C and }  ] they made references to in the past, how we have given arms to, {F uh, } Nicaragua and to other places in Latin America, and that those might turn around and haunt us someday. /  

%          B.10 utt1:  {D Well } that's, -/  

sv          A.11 utt1:  {E I mean, } [ not, + not  ] to this large scale as Iraq,  /
%         A.11 utt2: {C but } that, -/  

b          B.12 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.13 utt1:  whenever we give arms to people, [ a-, + as  ] we did, and as we sold arms [ to, + <throat_clearing> {E pardon me, } to  ] Iraq, when we wanted them to fight Iran,   

b          B.14 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.14 utt2: uh-huh. /  

+          A.15 utt1:  [ and then, + {F uh, } and then  ] it turn around  and, -/  

 sv         B.16 utt1:  [ I, + I  ] agree we're the largest munitions producer in the world,  /
sv          B.16 utt2: [ {C and } + {C so, }  ] {F uh, } there's a lot of money to be made there,  /
sv          B.16 utt3: {C and } it's, {F uh, } [ be + ] very difficult  [ to, + to  ] cut it back to [ a, +   

b          A.17 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.18 utt1:  a ] level where it should be.  /
sv          B.18 utt2:  [ {C And, } + {C and, }  ] {F uh, } it will come back to haunt us,  /
sv          B.18 utt3: it seems to come in cycles. /  

b          A.19 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sd         A.19 utt2:  {C And } I know when I spent, - /
sd          A.19 utt3: the time that I've studied in Mexico, {F uh, } [ se-, + ] {A Spanish was one of my majors in college, } [ that, + ] {F uh, } there was a kind of a lot of resentment there towards America, /  

b          B.20 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.21 utt1:  about, {F uh, } like you say, using them, yo-, - /
sv          A.21 utt2: our interest there is, {D you know, } what profit we could make off of any kind of relationship with them, /  

b          B.22 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          A.23 utt1:  {C and } [ that + ] we weren't normally very interested in them,  /
%          A.23 utt2: {C and } they have, - /
sv          A.23 utt3: [ in + other, in ] most  Latin American countries, [ they, + there  ] are a lot of the kind of problems that we've fought for in other countries, {D you know, }  /
sv          A.23 utt4: [ that + ] they have corruption,  /
sv          A.23 utt5: [ {C and, } + {C and }  ] they don't have, {F uh, } - /
sd          A.23 utt6: {E I mean, } there's just very few really modern cities. /  

b          B.24 utt1:  Right,  /
sv          B.24 utt2: {C and } [ the, + probably the  ] [ bigge-, + biggest  ] problem down there is  [ that's where the, + that's  ] the drug entry points, /  

b          A.25 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.26 utt1:  {C and } their economy is, - /
%          B.26 utt2: [ of s-, + several of ]  the countries, - /
sv          B.26 utt3: especially Columbia, is so built [ [ on the, + on t-,  ] + on the  ] drugs, that, {F uh, } [ our, + our  ] little war on drugs has really been laughable.  /
sv          B.26 utt4: It's just [ a, + {D you know, } such a  ] small amount,  /
%          B.26 utt5: {C and } it doe-, - /
%          B.26 utt6: it just, - /
sv          B.26 utt7: it, {F uh, } cuts off just a trickle,  /
sv          B.26 utt8: {C and, } {F uh, } [ if, + if  ] we can't get a handle on that [ through some, + through some,  ] {F uh, } method, I don't know [ where, + whe-,  ] - /
sv          B.26 utt9: that will be another big problem. /  

ba          A.27 utt1:  {D Well, } that's right,  /
sv          A.27 utt2: {C because } that's just so much of the way that they make their money  /
sv          A.27 utt3: {C and } so many communities [ have, + {F uh, } have  ] to have that for farming <laughter>. /  

b          B.28 utt1:  Right,  /
b^r          B.28 utt2: right. /  

sv          A.29 utt1:  {C And } they don't look at it so much as, {D you know, } -/  

sv          B.30 utt1:  {C And } as long as we're the largest, {F uh, } consumer, then, {F uh, }   

b          A.31 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.32 utt1:  this is the market. /  

ba          A.33 utt1:  That's right. /  

sv          B.34 utt1:  If we can cut back the usage, then {F uh, } maybe it will have to go someplace else. /  

sv          A.35 utt1:  {C And } I think it's really very sad that north of the border, {D you know, } the United States and Canada is so different,   

b          B.36 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.37 utt1:  [ from the S-, + from  ] South America,    

b          B.38 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b          B.38 utt2: yeah. /  

+          A.39 utt1:  and Central America.  /
sv          A.39 utt2: There's really a disparity between [ the, + ] {F uh, } what [ a + ] [ e-, + ] I would call civilization of the countries, {D you know. } /  

b@          B.40 utt1:  Right, yeah,  / *[[should this be two slash units?]]
sd          B.40 utt2: we're just so much wealthier,  /
sv          B.40 utt3: [ {C and, } + {F uh, }   

b          A.41 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

 +         B.42 utt1:  {C and, } ] {F uh, } there has to be resentment built up,  /
  sv        B.42 utt2: {C and } that's where, {F uh, } leaders can [ use, + {F uh, } use  ] that whenever the opportune moment arises. /  

aa          A.43 utt1:  Yes,  /
sv          A.43 utt2: it's really kind of sad, [ and, + ]    

b          B.44 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.45 utt1:  that we would go all the way to Iraq and that we would be very concerned with the situation between Jerusalem and, {F uh, } Israel and the Middle East Arab countries, [ [ and, + and ] + ] [ when we have, + when we have  ] a lot of problems, [ [ r-, + r-,  ] + right ] in our own back door. /  

b          B.46 utt1:  That's right.  /
bf          B.46 utt2: Our own hemisphere,  /
%          B.46 utt3: {C but } we've, - /
sv          B.46 utt4: [ that's been, + {F uh, } that's been  ] the way it's always been. /  

%          A.47 utt1:  {F Um. } /  

%          B.48 utt1:  {D So, } {F uh, } -/  

sv          A.49 utt1:  {C So } I guess we've kind of neglected Latin America. /  

sv          B.50 utt1:  Very much so, except when we need them.  /
sv          B.50 utt2: You know when they found oil in Mexico, then we got very friendly with them again. /  

%          A.51 utt1:  Ri-, - /
^2          A.51 utt2: recently <laughter>, /  

b          B.52 utt1:  Yeah. /  

aa          A.53 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.53 utt2: fairly recently.  /
sv          A.53 utt3: {D Well, } that's really sad.  /
sd          A.53 utt4: I hadn't thought about that in a long time. /  

%          B.54 utt1:  {F Um. } /  

 ad         A.55 utt1:  {D Well, } I guess then, I will go,  /
 %         A.55 utt2: {C but } I, -/  

aa          B.56 utt1:  Okay. /  

sd          A.57 utt1:  made me stop and think a minute about,   

ba          B.58 utt1:  Sure did. /  

+          A.59 utt1:  not worrying so much about the Middle East crisis.  /
sd          A.59 utt2:  I know that it's not settled but, there are other areas that we could focus our attention on. /  

aa          B.60 utt1:  Always,  /
ba          B.60 utt2: yes ma'am. /  

fc          A.61 utt1:  {D Well, } thank you,  /
fc          A.61 utt2: you have a good day. /  

fc          B.62 utt1:  You too, dear. /  

fc         A.63 utt1:  Bye-bye. /  

fc         B.64 utt1:  Bye. / 
