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FILENAME:	3039_1263_1281
TOPIC#:		358
DATE:		910610
TRANSCRIBER:	glp
UTT_CODER:      lsh
DIFFICULTY:	2
TOPICALITY:	2
NATURALNESS:	2
ECHO_FROM_B:	3
ECHO_FROM_A:	2
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	3
BACKGROUND_B:	3
REMARKS:        There was a lot of background noise.  It did not interfere 
with the Speakers, but was constant.  I could not tell which Speaker it was 
coming from.

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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay,  /
ad^t          A.1 utt2: we can start. /  

aa          B.2 utt1:  Okay.  /
fp          B.2 utt2: Hi. /  

fp          A.3 utt1:  Hi. /  

qw          B.4 utt1:  How many children do you have? /  

sd          A.5 utt1:  I have four. /  

b^m          B.6 utt1:  {F Oh, } four,  /
bk          B.6 utt2: okay,  /
bk^r          B.6 utt3: okay. /  

qw          A.7 utt1:  How many do you have? /  

sd          B.8 utt1:  {D Well, } I have two children and, {F uh, } two stepdaughters. /  

bk          A.9 utt1:  Okay. /  

sd          B.10 utt1:  <Laughter> {C So } we have four altogether, too. /  

bk          A.11 utt1:  Okay. /  

b          B.12 utt1:  Yeah.  /
qy          B.12 utt2:  [ Are you, + are you ] running ragged these days? /  

nn          A.13 utt1:  {D Well, } no,  /
sd^e          A.13 utt2: {C because } mine are all grown <laughter>. /  

b          B.14 utt1:  {F Oh, } they are.  /
b          B.14 utt2:  Oh <laughter>. /  

sd^t          A.15 utt1:  {C So } the topic for me, - /
sd           A.15 utt2: [ I, + I ]  can only [ rera-, + relate ] now to my grandchildren. /  

ba          B.16 utt1:  {F Oh, } {D well } --   

sd          A.17 utt1:  I do keep my, -/  

+          B.18 utt1:  -- good.  /
ad          B.18 utt2: Impart me some wisdom, Catherine <laughter>. /  

sd           A.19 utt1:  <Laughter> {F Uh, } I do take care of my youngest granddaughter, {F uh, } most every Saturday.  /
sd          A.19 utt2:  {F Uh, } my daughter and her husband work Saturdays.  /
sd           A.19 utt3:  My daughter is, {F uh, } {F uh, } doing a schedule of, {F uh, }  twenty-four hours on the weekend,  /
sd          A.19 utt4: {C but } she gets paid for forty. /  

b          B.20 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.21 utt1:  {C And } Dave is, {F uh, } in supervisory work  /
sd          A.21 utt2: {C and }  he has to work almost every Saturday  /
%          A.21 utt3: {C so, } -/  

b          B.22 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          A.23 utt1:  {F Uh, } /  

qw          B.24 utt1:  How old is your granddaughter? /  

sd          A.25 utt1:  She's three. /  

bf          B.26 utt1:  {F Oh, } {C  so } she's a little one. /  

aa          A.27 utt1:  Yes. /  

b          B.28 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd^m          A.29 utt1:  [ She's, + she's ] little <laughter>. /  

b          B.30 utt1:  Yeah,  /
b^r          B.30 utt2: yeah. /  

sd(^q)      A.31 utt1:  She's says how are you doing grandma today. /  

b          B.32 utt1:  Oh <laughter>. /  

fe          A.33 utt1:  <Laughter> Whoa <laughter>. /  

qy          B.34 utt1:  Are you surviving.  /
qy          B.34 utt2: Is she [ ol-, + ] your oldest  [ grandd-, + ] child? /  

nn          A.35 utt1:  {F Oh, } no,  /
nn^r          A.35 utt2: no,  /
nn^r          A.35 utt3: no.  /
nn^r          A.35 utt4:  No,  /
sd^e          A.35 utt5: she's my baby. /  

b          B.36 utt1:  Oh. /  

sd^r          A.37 utt1:  She's my baby,  /
%          A.37 utt2: yeah. /  

b          B.38 utt1:  Oh. /  

sd          A.39 utt1:  She was a miracle baby. /  

bh          B.40 utt1:  Was she? /  

ny          A.41 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd^e          A.41 utt2: she really was. /  

b          B.42 utt1:  Yeah. /  

b          A.43 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

b          B.44 utt1:  Oh. /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Yeah. /  

ba          B.46 utt1:  {F Oh, } that's nice.  /
qy           B.46 utt2:  Now do your other  grandchildren live in [ Dal-, + ] the Dallas area? /  

ny          A.47 utt1:  Yes,  /
na          A.47 utt2: they do,  /
ny          A.47 utt3: uh-huh. /  

qy          B.48 utt1:  Do you get to see them? /  

sd^r          A.49 utt1:  They really do,  /
ny          A.49 utt2: uh-huh. /  

ba          B.50 utt1:  How nice.  /
ba          B.50 utt2: What a treat.  /
sd           B.50 utt3: {D You know, }  being from Plano, {D you know, } I know so very few people who have extended family in town.  /
sd          B.50 utt4:   I'm real jealous when I hear that somebody has a grandma around --   

b          A.51 utt1:  Oh -- /  

+          B.52 utt1:  -- because --   

b         A.53 utt1:  -- yeah,  /
ba          A.53 utt2: that's --   

+          B.54 utt1:  -- we don't,  /
%          B.54 utt2: {C and, } -/  

+          A.55 utt1:  -- really, - /
ba          A.55 utt2: that's really wonderful. /  

aa          B.56 utt1:  It is,  /
aa^r          B.56 utt2: it is. /  

b          A.57 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd           B.58 utt1:  {C And, } {D you know, } just so that they get to know their grandparents, but also for help <laughter>. /  

b          A.59 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          B.60 utt1:  [ We don't, + we don't ] have that luxury.  /
sd          B.60 utt2:  {C But, }  we have lots of friends,  /
sd           B.60 utt3: [ {C and, } + {C and } ] everybody tends to be in the same boat.  /
sd           B.60 utt4: {C So }  [ we, + we ] trade off a whole lot with friends and, {D you know, } run here and run there. /
sd           B.60 utt5:  We're right smack dab in the middle of baseball season right now.  /
sd          B.60 utt6: {C And } we have three playing baseball. /  

ba          A.61 utt1:  {F Oh, } that's marvelous. /  

%          B.62 utt1:  {C So } <laughter>. -/  

sv          A.63 utt1:  {D Well } <noise> they keep you hopping, I'm sure. /  

aa          B.64 utt1:  They definitely do. /  

sd           A.65 utt1:  {D Well, } I know, {F uh, } that, {F uh, } one of the  ladies I know, they are very involved with their little girl  /
sv           A.65 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ]  I think it's excellent because she's getting qualified quality time --   

b          B.66 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.67 utt1:  -- for, {F uh, } her musical, {F uh, } talents --   

b          B.68 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.69 utt1:  -- her sports abilities -- /  

b          B.70 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd           A.71 utt1:  -- {C and, } {F uh, } I think because she is, {F uh, } <lipsmack> the only child that they concentrate, {F uh, }  they would like to have more,  /
sd          A.71 utt2: {C but }  that hasn't been, {F uh, } possible. /  

b          B.72 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.72 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd           A.73 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } she's tried many, {F uh, } avenues -- /  

b          B.74 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd(^q)       A.75 utt1:  -- [ {C and, } + {C and } ] {C so } now it's just, {D you know, } that she's kind of resolved herself that, {D yes, } this is going to be the only one <lipsmack>. /  

aa          B.76 utt1:  Yeah,  /
bf          B.76 utt2: {C and } she devotes,  /
aa          B.76 utt3: yeah. /  

sd           A.77 utt1:  {C And } they're focusing on all of her, {F uh, } welfare. /  

b          B.78 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.78 utt2: uh-huh.  /
b          B.78 utt3:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.78 utt4: {D well, } our kids, {D you know, } - /
sd           B.78 utt5:  {F uh, } my daughter [ s-, + ] {F uh, } sings with Younger Generation, I don't know if you've ever heard of them.  /
sd          B.78 utt6: There they're a singing group here in Plano. /  

bk          A.79 utt1:  {F Oh, } okay. /  

sd           B.80 utt1:  {C And } they're part of the [ ch-, + ]  {F uh, } Plano Children's [ Civics, + Civic ] Chorus. /  

b          A.81 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd           B.82 utt1:  {C And } they're going to Washington, D. C. next December <lipsmack>.  {F Uh, } to sing for President Bush at the White House at Christmas time. /  

ba          A.83 utt1:  {F Oh, } how wonderful. /  

qy          B.84 utt1:  Isn't that neat?  /
%          B.84 utt2: Yeah,  /
sd          B.84 utt3: {C so, }    

ba          A.85 utt1:  That's wonderful. /  

+           B.86 utt1:  {C So } we have been really up to our eye balls in fund raising and trying to get, {F uh, } -/  

ba          A.87 utt1:  {D Well, } that's wonderful. /  

aa          B.88 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.88 utt2: it is.  /
sd^r          B.88 utt3:  It is.  /
sd           B.88 utt4: {D So, } {D you know, } {C and then }  she plays softball  /
sd          B.88 utt5: {C and } my son plays baseball  /
sd          B.88 utt6: {C and } my stepdaughter plays softball  /
sd          B.88 utt7: {C so }  [ we, + we ] tend to do a lot of running.  /
sv           B.88 utt8: Things are very different nowadays than when I grew up -- /  

aa          A.89 utt1:  {F Oh, } they are. /  

sv           B.90 utt1:  -- {C and } I'm sure when your children grew up you didn't, {D you know, } - /
sd          B.90 utt2: I don't remember doing all these things. /  

aa          A.91 utt1:  No. /  

sd           B.92 utt1:  I certainly don't remember my parents running  me here and there and supporting me in all these things,  /
sd          B.92 utt2: {C but } we had more,  I guess family time alone --   

aa          A.93 utt1:  Yeah,  /
%          A.93 utt2: you're, -/  

+          B.94 utt1:  -- where we did nothing.    

sv          A.95 utt1:  Now I think --   

+          B.96 utt1:  Which was good. /  

+           A.97 utt1:  -- [ every-, + ] everything is doing, doing, doing, out of the house.    

aa          B.98 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa^r          B.98 utt2: yeah. /  

+          A.99 utt1:  Which can be very hectic. /  

aa          B.100 utt1:  It can be  /
sd            B.100 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ] sometimes  [ I, + {D you know, } I ] kind of long for the good old days when <laughter> --   

aa          A.101 utt1:  Yeah,  /
bf          A.101 utt2: it wasn't so he-, -/  

+          B.102 utt1:  -- we didn't do all these running.  /
sd           B.102 utt2:  {C But } on the other  hand, we just love watching the kids play and getting to know the other  parents  /
sd          B.102 utt3: {C and } --   

b          A.103 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.104 utt1:  -- we've had a lot of fun with that, too. /  

sv           A.105 utt1:  You have to look on that, on the, {F uh, } positive side of that. /  

sv          B.106 utt1:  It's just different. /  

aa          A.107 utt1:  Yes,  /
sd          A.107 utt2: it is. /  

b          B.108 utt1:  Yeah. /  

bf          A.109 utt1:  It's just a different lifestyle. /  

b^m          B.110 utt1:  It's just very different. /  

aa          A.111 utt1:  Yes. /  

b          B.112 utt1:  Yeah. /  

%          A.113 utt1:  {F Uh, } /  

b          B.114 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd           A.115 utt1:  My, {F uh, } second grandson is in A  Cappella /
sd           A.115 utt2: {C and } I know what you're talking about when he's involved, {D you know, } the children are involved --   

b          B.116 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.117 utt1:  -- in that,  /
sd          A.117 utt2: {C and } he's been, - /
sd          A.117 utt3:  he has traveled  /
sd          A.117 utt4: {C and } they have won awards,  /
%          A.117 utt5: {C so } I - /
o@          A.117 utt6:  know,  *[[ slash unit or part of previous slash unit? ]]  

bh          B.118 utt1:  {F Oh, } really. /  

+@         A.119 utt1:  Yes. /   *[[slash problem, should be ny]]

b          B.120 utt1:  Yeah. /  

b          A.121 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
ba          A.121 utt2:  {C And, } I know where  you're coming from -- /  

b          B.122 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.123 utt1:  -- {C and } [ it's, + it's ] very nice. /  

aa^m          B.124 utt1:  It is very nice. /  

sv           A.125 utt1:  I think, {F uh, } {F uh, } those type of children, {F uh, }  that are involved in things like that, their, {F uh, } goals are going to be set  higher than the average child that are not participating in things. /  

aa          B.126 utt1:  {D Well, } I think so,  /
sv           B.126 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ]  I think they've learned a whole lot about being part of a team, whether the team is your singing group,  your band, [ your +  --   

aa          A.127 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.128 utt1:  -- your ] sports team --   

%          A.129 utt1:  Going to, -/  

+          B.130 utt1:  -- {D you know, } you all have to pull together. /  

b          A.131 utt1:  Yeah. /  

%          B.132 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } -/  

bf          A.133 utt1:  [ [ A, + a, ] + a ] team effort,  /
%          A.133 utt2: yes. /  

aa          B.134 utt1:  <Lipsmack> Yeah,  /
sd          B.134 utt2: {C and so } I've been real pleased  with that, too. /
sd           B.134 utt3: I think they've learned some real good life skills.  {F Uh, } {D you know, } being --   

ba          A.135 utt1:  [ That, +   

+          B.136 utt1:  -- involved in all those things.  /
%          B.136 utt2: {C And, } {F uh, } -/  

+          A.137 utt1:  That's ] wonderful.  /
sv          A.137 utt2:  That's really is --   

b          B.138 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+           A.139 utt1:  -- nice to have in your background,  that, {D you know, } then [ you can, + [ you're, + ] you can ] be very flexible. /  

b          B.140 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv           A.141 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } there's less, {F uh, } friction involved in relationships when you add that skill --   

b          B.142 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.143 utt1:  -- of teamwork. /  

b          B.144 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv           A.145 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } {E I mean } a lot of people that  are adults are having to go back and  learn those basics when our children are already learning that. /  

aa          B.146 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa^r          B.146 utt2: yes. /  

sv           A.147 utt1:  {C And } I think it's a [ step, + [ a, + a ] giant step ] of progress, I really do. /  

aa          B.148 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa^r          B.148 utt2: uh-huh. /  

%          A.149 utt1:  {C So, } {F uh, } I, -/  

ad          B.150 utt1:  Give me some wonderful advice Catherine.  /
qw          B.150 utt2:   What is the best advice of mothering that you know?  <Laughter>. /  

sv          A.151 utt1:  The best of,   

sd(^q)        B.152 utt1:  Besides don't sweat the small stuff <laughter>. /  

+           A.153 utt1:  {D Well, } {F uh, } Cathy, I think if you look to the Word of God --   

b          B.154 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sv          B.154 utt2:  {F Oh, } that's good, that's real good advice. / 

+           A.155 utt1:  -- and, {F uh, } think on the things that  are pure and lovely  /
ad           A.155 utt2: {C and, } {F uh, } keep your mind off of negative things. /  

b          B.156 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

ad          A.157 utt1:  {C And } keep your mind on positive things  /
ad           A.157 utt2:  [ {C and, } + {C and } ] stress that to your children. /  

b          B.158 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

ad            A.159 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } [ even if they're, + even if they're ]  discouraged, tell them that that's just a passing moment --   

b          B.160 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.161 utt1:  -- and to dwell on those things  that are, {F uh, } <lipsmack> not negative and  that are positive things in their life -- /  

b          B.162 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv           A.163 utt1:  -- {C and, } I think you'll see a lot of growth [ in, + {F uh, } in ] their ability to, {F uh, } control their thought pattern  /
sv           A.163 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C and } ]  when you employ the Word of God there's nothing as powerful as the Word of God. /  

aa          B.164 utt1:  Absolutely.  /
aa          B.164 utt2: {D Well, } I would agree with that.  /
sd          B.164 utt3:  We're also real active in our church  /
sd          B.164 utt4: {C and } my kids do an awful lot with that.  /
sd          B.164 utt5:   Allyson sings in the choir.  /
sd(^q)       B.164 utt6:  I told her that's a gift from God  /
^q          B.164 utt7: {C and } you need to return that back. /  

aa          A.165 utt1:  {F Oh, } absolutely.  /
aa          A.165 utt2:  That's right. /  

^q          B.166 utt1:  {C And } [ you owe, + you owe ] that --   

b          A.167 utt1:  Uh-huh  /
x          A.167 utt2: <<faint>>.   

+           B.168 utt1:  -- back to God because he's given you that ability and that talent  /
sv          B.168 utt2: [ {C and } + --   

aa          A.169 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.170 utt1:  -- {C and } ] that's real nice.  /
sd          B.170 utt2:  I'm real proud of her.  /
sd           B.170 utt3:  I'm equally proud of her when I see her in church as I am when I see her performing.  /
sd          B.170 utt4:  {D You know, } that's, that's real neat. /  

sv          A.171 utt1:  {D Well, } [ if she looks, +   

x          B.172 utt1:  <Throat_clearing> <<faint>>.   

+           A.173 utt1:  if she looks ] at it as you suggest [ [ [ that, + that ] + that's, ] + that ] she can give [ her, + [ h-, + ] her ] talent back to the Lord for  His glory --   

b          B.174 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.175 utt1:  -- and she can look at it that way [ and, + and, ] {F uh, } that's ... -/ 
