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FILENAME:	4174_1531_1552
TOPIC#:		324
DATE:		920313
TRANSCRIBER:	glp
UTT_CODER:	stm
DIFFICULTY:	2
TOPICALITY:	2
NATURALNESS:	3
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	1
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:        Speaker A hard to understand--stammering.

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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay. /  

o          B.2 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          B.2 utt2: {D well, }  Mark,  our situation is that we do have a daughter that is, {F uh, } in the situation of choosing college. /  

b          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.4 utt1:  She's actually at Bible College for this current year. /  

b          A.5 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.6 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } I guess <breathing>, {F uh, } first and foremost, [ it, + {E really } it's ] a question of what the student wants to have in the way of a career and then, {F uh, } {F uh, } which colleges or universities can best offer that program,  /
sv          B.6 utt2: {C and then } it comes down to the dollar.  /
sv          B.6 utt3: You have to, {F uh, } - /
sv          B.6 utt4: it's whether or not you're a resident for that jurisdiction,  /
sv@          B.6 utt5: {C or } --     *[[slash error]]

b          A.7 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.8 utt1:  -- {D you know, } it does, - / *[[sv]]
sd          B.8 utt2: it comes down to, {F uh } --   

b          A.9 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.10 utt1:  -- trying to come with a trade off of the costs. /  

b          A.11 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

qo^d          B.12 utt1:  {F Uh, } what do you feel about come of the things that need to, -/  

sd          A.13 utt1:   (( Damn it )) , I agree [ with + pretty much with ] everything you've said.  /
sv          A.13 utt2:  {F Uh, }   [ the one, + the one ] thing that [ I, + {D you know, } I'd  ] advise any parent, {F uh, } {D you know, }  [ or  any, + or any  ] person looking for a college, {F uh, } is that [ I think, + I think, ]  {D you know, } it's really important for them to actually visit the college and  actually try and get away from, {D you know, } the guided tour of the college and  try and talk to the, {D you know, } actual students there  /
sv          A.13 utt3: {C because, } {D you know, } they're just, {F uh, } in my experience, - /
sd          A.13 utt4: I've talked to people at other colleges, {F uh, } that, {D you know, } - /
sv          A.13 utt5:  [ [ [ the, + the,  ] + the  ] way, +   [ [ [ the, + {D you know, } the, ] + the, ] + the ] lifestyle  ] pictured in the [ cat-, + catalogs ] isn't always <laughter> the whole story. /  

aa          B.14 utt1:  No,  /
%          B.14 utt2: y-, - /
%          B.14 utt3: [ the, + the  ] college, - /
sv          B.14 utt4: [ the, + the ] catalogs are sales material. /  

b          A.15 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.16 utt1:  It doesn't matter --   

b          A.17 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.18 utt1:  -- whether, {D you know, } [ they're, + they're ] selling school. /  

b          A.19 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

o          B.20 utt1:  [ {C And, } +  {F uh, } {C and, } ] true,  /
sv          B.20 utt2: it, {F uh, } really is helpful if a parent and the student can get there and see --   

b          A.21 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.22 utt1:  -- the real character of the school and the real life experiences of the school.   /
sv          B.22 utt2: {F Uh, }  I guess there's a difference in, - /
%          B.22 utt3: here the, - /
sd          B.22 utt4: at least,   

x          A.23 utt1:  <Clanking>.   

+          B.24 utt1:  the university here in  (( Saskatoon ))  is primarily, {F uh, } off campus resident students.  /
sd          B.24 utt2: {D Like, } they just live in the community. /  

b          A.25 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.26 utt1:  {F Uh, } {D you know, } I know that there are a lot of colleges and universities, particularly as they get to be a little bit on the smaller side where dormitory life is, {F uh, }  is right on campus as well -- /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.28 utt1:  -- {C and } [ that, + {D you know, } that ] changes the character --   

b          A.29 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.30 utt1:  -- of it quite a bit. /  

b          A.31 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.31 utt2: [ I, + I ] go to Georgia Tech which is, {D you know, } primarily an engineering school -- /  

b          B.32 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.33 utt1:  -- {C and, } {F uh, } {D you know, } I think I really do miss the fact, {D you know, }  (( that )) it's not a university, that [ there's, + there's ] not, [ the, + the, ]  {D you know, } - /
sv          A.33 utt2: it tends to be a very conservative school  /
sv          A.33 utt3: [ {C and }  there, + {C and }  there  ] doesn't seem to be the diversity of views that a lot of, {D you know, } universities [ will, + will ] have. /  

b          B.34 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sd          B.34 utt2:  {F Uh, } I guess we're here,  /
sv*          B.34 utt3: this is the university that has, for years had [ the, + the  ] car, that, {F uh, } will travel the farthest [ on, + {F uh, } on ] a small quantity of gas,  /  *[[utt 3 & 4 one utt??]]
"          B.34 utt4: our engineering students. /  

b          A.35 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.36 utt1:  {F Uh, } in competitions - /
sv          B.36 utt2: {C and } that's the kind of thing that also [ you see, + {F uh, } if you can see ] the kinds of achievements that have been made by students as well as graduates --   

b          A.37 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.38 utt1:  -- can give you idea of the character of the school.  /
sv          B.38 utt2:  {F Uh, } [ whether you,   {D you know, } in one sense, + whether you've  ] got a spirit of innovation and excellence or whether you've got [ a, + a ] spirit of, somewhat unkind, but --   

b          A.39 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.40 utt1:  -- producing graduates. /  

b          A.41 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          B.42 utt1:  {F Uh, } {D you know, } as sort of some development and some training, {F uh, }  /
sv          B.42 utt2: {D like } it's easy enough to crank out graduates, but to really challenge them -- /  

b          A.43 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.44 utt1:  -- [ {C and, } + {F uh, } {C and }  ] that can vary between colleges, and faculties even, as to [ how, + ] {D you know, } what the attitude towards achievement is. /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

qy          B.46 utt1:  {F Uh, } do you, {F uh, } have anyone that you're seriously needing to, {F uh, } feed information to?  /
sv          B.46 utt2: I suppose if you're actually at Georgia Tech as a student, you're a ways away from that. /  

b          A.47 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.47 utt2: {F uh, } I don't really know of anyone [ that's {D like } look-, + that's looking  ] for colleges now, {D you know, }   [ because  it, + ]  with the exception of, {F uh, } people's younger brothers and sisters.  /
sd(^q)          A.47 utt3:  (( Then the only advise passed ))  down is, don't go to Georgia Tech <laughter>. /  

x          B.48 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

%          A.49 utt1:  {F Uh, } {C but, } {F uh, } no,  /
sd          A.49 utt2: [ actua-, + actually ] [ [ I'm, + I'm,  ] + I'm ] more  interested  [ [ in, + in, ] + in ] choosing the right [ j-, + job  ] when you graduate <laughter> --   

b          B.50 utt1:  Right. /  

+          A.51 utt1:  -- type information <laughter>. /  

sv          B.52 utt1:  {D Well, } [ that's, + that's ] [ one of the, + ] really, a valid point that people need --   

b          A.53 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.54 utt1:  -- to consider as well. /  

%          A.55 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.56 utt1:  {F Uh, } {D you know, } to, - /
sd          B.56 utt2: going to [ college, + university ] is going to take four to eight years depending on the --   

^2          A.57 utt1:  Program. /  

+          B.58 utt1:  -- [ [ p-, + pa-, ] + programs ] person's involved in   /
sv          B.58 utt2: {C and } after that, you have to be out in the real world and have to be able to support yourself -- /  

b          A.59 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.60 utt1:  -- {C and } if you go in an area that there is just not much of a job market -- -/  

b          A.61 utt1:  Uh-uh. /  

fe          B.62 utt1:  -- jeez,  /
%          B.62 utt2: if that's, -/  

b          A.63 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
^2          A.63 utt2: like a fine arts education,  /
%          A.63 utt3: I, -/  

aa          B.64 utt1:  Right.  /
sv          B.64 utt2:  Best training in the world is not going to [ f-, + put food  ] on your table. /  

b          A.66 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.67 utt1:  {C But, } {F uh, } -/ 
