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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay  /
qy^d          A.1 utt2: <laughter> he did really decide to go? /  

qy^d@         B.2 utt1:  <Laughter>  {F Um, } to Williams College in Massachusetts?    

aa          A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa          A.3 utt2: sure  /
sd          A.3 utt3:  I'm familiar with it, /  

+@         B.4 utt1:  And that he was <laughter>  trying to decide between  University of Pennsylvania and Williams,  /
sd          B.4 utt2: {C and } it was a very  difficult choice  /
o@          B.4 utt3: {C and, } {F uh, }  *[[slash unit?]] 

qr          A.5 utt1:  {C And } [ he, + {D well, } he ]  must know, is he interested in law or medicine,  /
qy^d          A.5 utt2: he must have a definite profession in mind. /  

+@         B.6 utt1:  No,  /  *[[should be nn, slash bug]]
o@          B.6 utt2: {C but } that's one of the reasons  why he chose Williams --   

bk          A.7 utt1:  {F Oh, } okay, /  

+@          B.8 utt1:  -- that it has solid liberal arts,  *[[end of slash unit?]]

sd          A.9 utt1:  Medium size,  /
^g          A.9 utt2: aren't they? /  

+@          B.10 utt1:  About two thousand, /  *[[should be indep slash unit. See B.8]]

qy          A.11 utt1:  Is he excited? /  

sd          B.12 utt1:  Very excited,  /
o@         B.12 utt2: yes, {F uh } -- *[[should be ny; looks like a slash unit to me! ]]  

ba          A.13 utt1:  Wow,  /
%          A.13 utt2: I can,  /
%          A.13 utt3: I, -/  

+@          B.14 utt1:  -- I have another son who's at their chief rival,  Amherst College. /  *[[should be independent slash unit.  See B.12 utt2]]

b          A.15 utt1:  Uh-huh  /
sd          A.15 utt2: while they're east coast, {E I mean, } I don't  know anything about their football,  /
h          A.15 utt3: {C but } there you go. /  

sd          B.16 utt1:  {D Well, } [ [ they're, + they're, ] + they're ]  really very strong academic rather than, {D you know, } big sports, /  

b          A.17 utt1:  Yeah,  /
%          A.17 utt2: that's, - /
qw          A.17 utt3: [ where, + where ] you at? /  

sd          B.18 utt1:  We're outside of, {F uh, } Washington in Maryland.  /
qo          B.18 utt2:  How about you? /  

bk          A.19 utt1:  {F Oh, } okay,  /
sd          A.19 utt2: I'm in, {F uh, } suburban Dallas. /  

b          B.20 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
qy          B.20 utt2: do you have children in, -/  

nn         A.21 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          A.21 utt2: I don't,  /
sd        A.21 utt3: I have a husband <laughter>.  /
sd          A.21 utt4:   We don't have any kids yet. /  

b          B.22 utt1:  Okay, {F um, } /  

sv          A.23 utt1:  About all I can say is I guess about picking  schools, {F um, } I guess, {F uh, } if you don't know what you're going to do, liberal arts program  is a good idea. /  

%          B.24 utt1:  {D Well, } [ I, + I, ] - /
sd          B.24 utt2: one of [ the, + the ]  advices we've given our children is that you can always learn a job -- /  

aa          A.25 utt1:  This is true, /  

sd          B.26 utt1:  -- {F uh, } {C but } what you can't learn, {F uh, }  on a job, is a good solid [ well-, + well-rounded ] education. /  

aa          A.27 utt1:  Right,  /
bf          A.27 utt2: the humanities,  the history,  yeah, /  

aa          B.28 utt1:  That's right, {D you know, }  /
sd          B.28 utt2: the Renaissance man -- /  

aa          A.29 utt1:  Right,  /
aa^r          A.29 utt2: right,  /
%          A.29 utt3: no,  /
%          A.29 utt4: no,  /
%          A.29 utt5: no <laughter>. /  

sv          B.30 utt1:  -- [ {C and, } + {F uh, } {C and } ]  if you get that you can,  /
sv          B.30 utt2: {C and } if you do well, [ you can, + you can ] learn a job, /  

b          A.31 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.31 utt2: {C but } [ they, + ] {D you know, }  if they learn the job and they can go into graduate school --   

aa          B.32 utt1:  That's exactly right. /  

+          A.33 utt1:  -- usually a company, [ it will, + if it's worth it's weight,  will ] subsidize, /  

aa          B.34 utt1:  That's right. /  

%          A.35 utt1:  {C And, } -/  

sd(^q)       B.36 utt1:  {C So } the advice we gave to them --   

b          A.37 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.38 utt1:  -- was, number one, visit the colleges --   

aa          A.39 utt1:  [ This, + this ] is true, /  

+          B.40 utt1:  -- that you're thinking about --   

b          A.41 utt1:  Yes. /  

+          B.42 utt1:  -- describe first of all, the size school that  you might be interested in -- /  

^2          A.43 utt1:  {C And } if you want to go away,  /
^g         A.43 utt2: right, /  

^q          B.44 utt1:  -- do you want to go away,  /
^q          B.44 utt2: how far from home do you want to be. /  

b          A.45 utt1:  Right. /  

^q          B.46 utt1:  What do you want in a college.  /
sd          B.46 utt2:   Now my son is a national level competitive swimmer -- /  

ba          A.47 utt1:  Good. /  

sd          B.48 utt1:  -- {C so } he wanted to swim in school,  /
sd          B.48 utt2:  {C but } he did not want to be in a swim factory. /  

b          A.49 utt1:  Okay.  /
bf          A.49 utt2:  {C So } he wouldn't have gone to  something like where we're at, [ they'd, + ] in Austin, Texas, University of Texas, /  

aa          B.50 utt1:  That's right,  /
sd          B.50 utt2: that's the University of Texas at  Austin, or --   

b          A.51 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.52 utt1:  -- Stanford or something like that --    

b^m          A.53 utt1:  Texas Aqua-, - /
b          A.53 utt2: yeah, /  

+          B.54 utt1:  -- so he didn't even consider those. /  

b          A.55 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          A.55 utt2: {D well } [ that's, + ]  I think the other thing is, too, {F um, } I know I went to a, {F uh, } city high school in Chicago -- /  

b          B.56 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.57 utt1:  -- {C and } a lot of the kids weren't as fortunate  as say, my brother and I were,  /
sd          A.57 utt2: {C and } economics was the choice -- /  

b          B.58 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.59 utt1:  -- {F um, } sounds like your son has academically the  standing to get into that type of school. /  

sd          B.60 utt1:  He is very, very strong academically,  /
%          B.60 utt2:  yeah,  /
%          B.60 utt3: {C so, } we've just, - /
sd          B.60 utt4: {C but, } {D you know, } he had to look to see --   

b          A.61 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.62 utt1:  -- what kind of environment he liked,  /
sd          B.62 utt2: {C and } yet [ he, + he ]  did wind up having to make a choice.  /
sd          B.62 utt3: He did apply to a large, {D you know, } large group, /  

b          A.63 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          A.63 utt2: University of Penn, - /
sd          A.63 utt3:  I'm originally from Pennsylvania.  /
sd          A.63 utt4:  [ Pennsyl-, + ] University of Pennsylvania, -/  

sd          B.64 utt1:  It's got about nine thousand undergraduate. /  

aa          A.65 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.65 utt2: that's strong,  /
%          A.65 utt3: {E I mean } that's --   

b          B.66 utt1:  Yeah, /  

+          A.67 utt1:  -- {D you know } -- -/  

b          B.68 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.69 utt1:  -- {C and } [ [ it's, + it's, ] + {D well, } it's ]  a little bit, {A I don't want to use the word  wilder, that's not the word I want. }  {F Um, } more diverse <laughter>, /  

aa          B.70 utt1:  Yes,  /
sd          B.70 utt2: [ {C and } it, + {C but } it ]  does have the under, {D you know, } - /
sd          B.70 utt3: that's total undergraduate with five hundred graduate school,  so that the, {F uh, } the college of arts and sciences is, {D you know, } I guess about four thousand. /  

qr          A.71 utt1:  At Williams or Pennsylvania?  /
qy          A.71 utt2: At Williams, -/  

sd          B.72 utt1:  At Pennsylvania. /  

b^m          A.73 utt1:  At Pennsylvania.  /
qw          A.73 utt2:  {D Well } how large is Williams? /  

sd          B.74 utt1:  Williams is an undergraduate school only -- /  

b          A.75 utt1:  Right. /  

sd          B.76 utt1:  -- {F um, } {C and } it's a total of two thousand. /  

ba          A.77 utt1:  {D Well } that's not bad. /  

aa          B.78 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.78 utt2: {C so } he knew the feeling because my  other son is at Amherst which is --   

^2          A.79 utt1:  Which is a lot, -/  

+          B.80 utt1:  -- fifteen hundred -- /  

b          A.81 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          B.82 utt1:  -- {C and } he had visited his brother at  Amherst and knew --   

b          A.83 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.84 utt1:  -- that he liked the environment -- /  

b          A.85 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.86 utt1:  -- {C but } he did go on college visits,  /
sd          B.86 utt2: {C and } he liked, -/  

sv          A.87 utt1:  That's the thing to do,  /
sd          A.87 utt2:  {E I mean, } [ I, + ] not having any children, my husband was an Ohio State person,  /
sd          A.87 utt3: {C and, } {F uh, } that has  something {D like } either the first or  second largest student population, {D like } fifty thousand. /  

aa          B.88 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa^r          B.88 utt2: yes -- /  

sd          A.89 utt1:  Combined  ((   )) . -/  

sv          B.90 utt1:  -- it's large,  /
sd          B.90 utt2: {C and } [ they, + ]  both boys had decided no, that they did not want that. /  

aa          A.91 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.91 utt2: that is too much,  /
sv          A.91 utt3: {C and } {E I mean, }  [ I, + {F um, } I ] can only say it's strange your son picked those kinds of college because I spent a year at Bennington in Vermont, /  

%          B.92 utt1:  {F Oh, } it's, - /
%          B.92 utt2: so you, -/  

sd          A.93 utt1:  {F Um, } {C and } [ that was, + this was ]  twenty years ago <laughter>. /  

b          B.94 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.95 utt1:  Showing my age, -/  

qy          B.96 utt1:  {C And } did you ever eat at the Blue Bin Diner? /  

ny          A.97 utt1:  Yes.  /
fe          A.97 utt2: Oh my God,  /
qw          A.97 utt3: where are you from,  /
ad          A.97 utt4:  {D well, } let's not talk about that <laughter>. /  

aa          B.98 utt1:  <Laughter> No  /
sd          B.98 utt2: {C but } we've been there when  ((   ))   whose gone up there. -/  

sd          A.99 utt1:  It's, {F um, } in that area.  /
sd          A.99 utt2: {E I mean } I just can't  say enough about it. /  

sd          B.100 utt1:  {F Oh, } [ it's, + it ] ((   )) - /
sd          B.100 utt2:  we went  /
sd          B.100 utt3: {C and } he was, {D you know, } impressed by the clean air  /
sd          B.100 utt4: {C and } [ he, + he ] met the students at both schools  /
sd          B.100 utt5:  {C and } he liked them. /  

sd          A.101 utt1:  {D Well } {D you know, } {F um, } my husband's an  engineer and [ a strong +  ((   )) , a strong ] liberal arts background with, {F uh, }  a graduate degree in a technical field --   

b          B.102 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.103 utt1:  -- will get him much further than say {D like } [ a, + a ]  strong, {F um, } business administration degree than with another M B A --   

aa          B.104 utt1:  That's it. /  

+          A.105 utt1:  -- on top of it. /  

sv          B.106 utt1:  The thing is [ if, + if ] a person really knows very early on --   

b          A.107 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.108 utt1:  -- that they want to go --   

^2          A.109 utt1:  {C and } they usually,   

+          B.110 utt1:  -- in a technical field, [ than you're not, + then it's ]  probably good [ to go to, + {D you know, } to apply to ] a # school #  --   

+          A.111 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
sv          A.111 utt2: # # {C but } they usually don't. # /  

+          B.112 utt1:  -- # with a good # technical program,  /
sv          B.112 utt2:  {C but, } {F uh, } [ for, + ] if you're going into, - /
sv          B.112 utt3: if {D you know } engineering is the thing [ if, + ]  then you've got to at least take engineering. /  

aa          A.113 utt1:  Right,  /
sd          A.113 utt2: {C but } they, - /
%          A.113 utt3: no  /
qh          A.113 utt4: {C but } who does.  /
sv          A.113 utt5:    {E I mean, } [ [ I think, +   

aa          B.114 utt1:  # That's right. # /  

+          A.115 utt1:  # I think ] # all, + I think ]  the majority of people just don't know.  /
%          A.115 utt2:  No  /
sd          A.115 utt3: he looked at criteria such as location, size of school --   

b          B.116 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.117 utt1:  -- {F uh, } -/  

%          B.118 utt1:  No  /
sd          B.118 utt2: he didn't apply to any school further,  /
sd          B.118 utt3:  the furthest away was Bowdoin, in Maine which is about twelve hours. /  

sv          A.119 utt1:  That's still pretty far though.  /
sv          A.119 utt2:  {E I mean } a lot of kids  just don't even want to go, /  

b          B.120 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.120 utt2: that was the furthest and then Kenyon in Ohio which  was about six and  a half hours  /
sd          B.120 utt3: {C and } Williams is about seven. /  

ba          A.121 utt1:  {F Oh, } that's not too bad. /  

aa          B.122 utt1:  Yeah  /
%          B.122 utt2: {C so, } {D well, } {E I mean } he,  so  it wasn't, - /
%          B.122 utt3: he, {D you know, } - /
sd          B.122 utt4: then the University of Pennsylvania is {D like } two hours from here by train  /
sd          B.122 utt5:  and then Bucknell in mid-state Pennsylvania. /  

b          A.123 utt1:   ((   ))  Yeah,  /
sv          A.123 utt2: he will enjoy Williams  I think and ((   ))  is a good academic, /  

aa          B.124 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.124 utt2: {C and } he will,  /
sd          B.124 utt3: {C and } [ if, + ]  it came down {E I mean, } as [ he, + he ] came, - /
sd          B.124 utt4: he's been talking to them  /
sd          B.124 utt5: [ {C and, } +   

x          A.125 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

+          B.126 utt1:  {C and } ] he came down  /
sd          B.126 utt2: {C and } one of the things that  he said is, he went to Pennsylvania this weekend  /
sd          B.126 utt3: {C and } he had an absolutely  marvelous time -- /  

b          A.127 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.128 utt1:  -- he had a great time  /
sd(^q)       B.128 utt2: {C but } then he said, {D you know, }  it was such a good time that I almost got the feeling that their emphasis is on having fun. /  

sv          A.129 utt1:  That could very well be  /
sv          A.129 utt2: {C and, }   

sd          B.130 utt1:  {C and } he said it almost back-, - /
sd          B.130 utt2: I think it  backfired. /  

+          A.131 utt1:  {C So } he's developing [ his, + his, ]  {F uh, } internal instincts right now.  /
sv          A.131 utt2: That's good because --   

%          B.132 utt1:  {D So. } -/  

+          A.133 utt1:  -- {E I mean } I'm sure what he said was true,  that, {F uh, } you, - /
sd          A.133 utt2: {D well } {D actually } that's one of the reasons I went to  ((   )) , - /
sv          A.133 utt3:   Kenyon, [ he we-, + he made ] a good choice.  /
sd          A.133 utt4:  I went, - /
sd          A.133 utt5: [ I, + {D well }  ((   ))  ] I was supposed to,  /
sd          A.133 utt6:  {C but } I spent a year in Vermont, my freshman year,  /
sd          A.133 utt7: it was just too far away,  /
sd          A.133 utt8:  it was too different --   

b          B.134 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.135 utt1:  -- {F uh, } the level of income of lot of the students  /
sd          A.135 utt2: {C and }  their attitudes was just, {F um, } beyond my,   

b          B.136 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
b^r          B.136 utt2: yeah. # /  

+          A.137 utt1:  # {F um, } in # terms of drugs, et cetera,  which I thought was shocking. /  

sv          B.138 utt1:  Of course, that period too was probably difficult. /  

aa          A.139 utt1:  Right,  /
aa          A.139 utt2: yeah,  /
sv          A.139 utt3: you're right  /
sd          A.139 utt4: {C but } then I went, -/  

sd          B.140 utt1:  {C But } I did, {F uh, }  /
sd          B.140 utt2: my advice to him,   

b          A.141 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          B.142 utt1:  [ and my hus-, + ] was that, {F uh, } he had to really  decide what he wanted out of college.  /
sd          B.142 utt2:  He had to look at himself.  /
sd          B.142 utt3: {F Uh, } in a larger school  he had to realize that if he was going to screw around it, he could probably slip  /
sd          B.142 utt4: {C and } it wouldn't be caught up until it was too late where in a smaller school --   

b          A.143 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.144 utt1:  -- where, especially in a Kenyon or a Williams,  where you see the professors around town all the time,  you skip class in the morning and they see you, /  

sd          A.145 utt1:  {C And } you're going to get a little bit more  input <laughter>  than --   

%          B.146 utt1:  That's, - /
aa          B.146 utt2: yeah,  /
aa^r          B.146 utt3: yeah. /  

+          A.147 utt1:  -- discipline  /
%          A.147 utt2: yeah. /  

sd          B.148 utt1:  {C And } a swim coach is going to be right on top of  you, {F uh, } [ so that, + ]  /
sd          B.148 utt2: {C and } he will know the professors in a small, -/  

h          A.149 utt1:  {D Well } I don't know how to put this either  in this way  /
sv          A.149 utt2: {C and then } it doesn't sound like your sons would need this  /
sv          A.149 utt3: {C but } I just think  the other thing is with the way a lot of the youth is today,  I think the refinement that they get --   

b          B.150 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.151 utt1:  -- I don't mean specifically  ((   ))  or culture but  just what you're saying, just a solid background --   

b          B.152 utt1:  Yeah,  /
b^r          B.152 utt2: yeah. /  

+          A.153 utt1:  -- because I just don't think at that age I just don't think that young people know what they want to do.    

aa          B.154 utt1:  That's right,  /
aa^r          B.154 utt2: that's right. /  

+          A.155 utt1:  {D You know }  /
%          A.155 utt2: {C and, } {F um, } -/  

sd          B.156 utt1:  [ {C And, } + {F um, } {C and } ]  it's just the personal contact where if you need help -- -/  

aa          A.157 utt1:  That's right. /  

%          B.158 utt1:  -- he had, - /
sd          B.158 utt2: I told him to look to yourself.  /
^q          B.158 utt3:   Are you the kind of person that will go into a large college and if the professor says I've got office hours  but you really don't feel that you know him because  you're in a class of a hundred --   

b          A.159 utt1:  # Right  ((   )) . # /  

+          B.160 utt1:  -- # that you're really #  going to look him up -- /  

b          A.161 utt1:  Yeah. /  

^q         B.162 utt1:  -- {C but } if it's a class of fifteen --   

sv          A.163 utt1:  This is very, very, -/  

+          B.164 utt1:  -- and you need help, you know that it's much  easier to do it and  especially in the large schools they have lectures -- /  

b          A.165 utt1:  Oh. /  

sd          B.166 utt1:  -- {C and } even though they may break it up into  smaller groups Penn is known for having --   

^2          A.167 utt1:  # They have video lectures. # /  

+          B.168 utt1:  -- # graduate assistance teaching. # /  

b          A.169 utt1:  Yeah.  /
b^m          A.169 utt2:  # Video lectures. # /  

sd          B.170 utt1:  # They have # graduate assistants to teach the smaller groups. /  

aa          A.171 utt1:  This is true,  /
sv          A.171 utt2: {C and } {E I mean } that is very ironic   too that your son just made the, - /
qy          A.171 utt3: did he just make the decision today? /  

sd          B.172 utt1:   ((   ))  he made the decision, {F uh, } I'd say,  about, {F uh, } an hour and a half ago <laughter>. /  

ba          A.173 utt1:  How funny <laughter>. /  

aa          B.174 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.174 utt2: {E I mean, } that's so funny.   {E I mean, }  /
sd          B.174 utt3:  [ {C and, } + {C and, } ] in fact, he had just an hour before that two, {F uh, } recent graduates from Kenyon  spent close to two hours talking with him -- /  

ba          A.175 utt1:  That's funny. /  

sd          B.176 utt1:  -- [ {C and, } + {F uh, } {E I mean, } {C and } ] [ he, + they ] were really nice,  /
sd          B.176 utt2: [ {C and, } + {C but } ]  he said [ is, + ] that they didn't tell him anything that he didn't know,  /
sd          B.176 utt3:  {C but } they helped confirm his decision that a smaller school was better. /  

bf          A.177 utt1:  It was easy for him to rule out.  /
bf          A.177 utt2:  He knew what he didn't want -- -/  

aa          B.178 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa^r          B.178 utt2: yeah. /  

sv          A.179 utt1:  -- that's exactly, - /
%          A.179 utt2: yeah.  /
qy          A.179 utt3:  Now is your other, - /
sd          A.179 utt4:  {E I mean } we're talking about what you think,  /
sd          A.179 utt5: {C but } obviously you're experiencing it.  {F Uh, } /  

x          B.180 utt1:   ((   ))  <laughter>.   

qy          A.181 utt1:  Did your other son, {F um, } -/  

sd          B.182 utt1:  My other son is just as happy as a bed bug. /  

bc          A.183 utt1:  A clam. /  

%          B.184 utt1:  He, - /
sd          B.184 utt2: the moment he knew, [ he, + he ]  decided early on that Amherst was the school.  /
sd          B.184 utt3:  He's a classical guitarist -- /  

ba          A.185 utt1:  {F Oh, } wonderful. /  

sd          B.186 utt1:  -- {C and } [ he decided, + he ]  also got into the graduate school of music as an undergraduate --   

b          A.187 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.188 utt1:  -- for classical guitar,  /
sd          B.188 utt2: {C but } he decided he was  going to go to [ the, + {F um } --   

^2          A.189 utt1:  The smaller and the, -/  

+          B.190 utt1:  -- the ] smaller now, and then graduate school later. /  

sv          A.191 utt1:  {C And } they'll do fine in their studies,  /
sv          A.191 utt2: {C and }  I'm sure they'll go on to graduate school,  /
bf@          A.191 utt3: [ {C and, } +  *[[ I think this should be a slash unit, since A's next utterance follows B's longer turn]]  

sd          B.192 utt1:  {D Well, } [ he's really, + my older boy's real ] happy,  /
sd          B.192 utt2:  {C and } he's minoring in English,  /
sd          B.192 utt3: {C and } he had thought about economics,  /
sd          B.192 utt4:  {C and } he took a couple of courses in economics and decided that wasn't, -/  

+@          A.193 utt1:  {C And } now [ he's a sen-, + he's a senior ]  / *[[ should be an indep slash unit]]
qrr          A.193 utt2:  {C or } is this early admissions? /  

sd          B.194 utt1:  [ He's, + {F um, } he's ] going to be a junior.  /
sd          B.194 utt2:   He'll be, he's  finishing his sophomore year --    

bf          A.195 utt1:  [ {C So } he's, +   

+          B.196 utt1:  -- {C so } he's double majoring. /  

+          A.197 utt1:  {C So } he's, ] yeah, - /
sv          A.197 utt2: {D well } sounds like you have  two talented sons. /  

sd          B.198 utt1:  {D Well, } {D you know, } {D see } the advice we  give is to not limit yourself, especially this, {D you know, } go to a school where you're  not forced to make too many irrevocable decisions your first year or two. /  

sv          A.199 utt1:  I think,  and a lot of people talk about, - /
sd          A.199 utt2: {C and }  it's not the economics I solely zeroed in on,  /
sv          A.199 utt3: {C but } I think [ a lot of people think + a  lot of people think ] about the tuition level and what exactly are you getting in return -- /  

b          B.200 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.201 utt1:  -- {C and } I think that a lot of people shy away  from the smaller [ coll-, + colleges ] because of that,  /
sv          A.201 utt2: {C and } I think it's rather sad, /  

sd          B.202 utt1:  {D Well, } one of the things we said is that they  should pick the college,  /
sd          B.202 utt2: this was our advice, too, irrespective of the cost.    That somehow we would manage. /  

sv          A.203 utt1:  You are wonderful parents <laughter>. /  

sd          B.204 utt1:  {D Well, } we place a real high priority on education  in our family. /  

b          A.205 utt1:  No,  /
aa          A.205 utt2: {C and } I agree,  /
sd          A.205 utt3: {E I mean, } my husband and  I, - /
sd          A.205 utt4: in fact, I'm taking my L S A T -s, {F um, }  /
sd          A.205 utt5: I'm thirty something --   

ba          B.206 utt1:  {F Oh, } good,  /
ba          B.206 utt2: that's wonderful. /  

+          A.207 utt1:  -- and taking my L S A T -s on June tenth. /  

ba          B.208 utt1:  {F Oh, } that's great. /  

sv          A.209 utt1:  The point being,  and your sons will learn  this from you, {A I'm sure, } that, {F uh, } no matter what age you are, you can learn -- /  

aa          B.210 utt1:  That's right,  /
aa          B.210 utt2: that's exactly, -/  

sv          A.211 utt1:  -- {C and, } it sounds like they're going to, {D you know, }  they're, -/ 
