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FILENAME:	4681_1352_1688
TOPIC#:		340
DATE:		920413
TRANSCRIBER:	nk
UTT_CODER:      mmab
DIFFICULTY:	3
TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	1
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	3
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:         There is a child talking and singing in A's background
throughout entire conversation.  Speaker B mumbles a lot.  And both speakers
talk over each other.

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o          A.1 utt1:  <Child_talking> {F Uh, } <noise> taxes <laughter>.  /
qy          A.1 utt2: Do you want to go ahead? /  

na          B.2 utt1:  <Snorting> Sure.  /
sv          B.2 utt2: We pay far too much in taxes.  /
sv          B.2 utt3:  {D Well, } far too much for what we get.  /
sv          B.2 utt4:  {E I mean } --   

b          @A.3 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.4 utt1:  -- [ it's just, +   

aa          A.5 utt1:  I agree. /  

+          B.6 utt1:  <Snorting> I don't know, it [ ju-, + just ] ] seems too much of the money is just lost <laughter>. /  

aa          A.7 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
sv          A.7 utt2:  {D Well } I think, {F uh, } {D you know, } when I look at, {F uh, } all the things that are coming out now about over spending and spending money that's not there and buying things that are extremely expensive where they could buy it [ at a, + at a ] better discount, # {F uh, } - /
%          A.7 utt3: [ when you, + when, ] # -/  

b          B.8 utt1:  # {F Um. }  /
qy          B.8 utt2:  You # mean like those, {D you know, } twenty thousand dollar toilets <laughter>? /  

na          A.9 utt1:  Exactly,  /
na^r          A.9 utt2: exactly.  /
sv          A.9 utt3: That's exactly, {F uh, } the whole thing.  /
sv          A.9 utt4:  When you take a look at all those issues of where our money is going - /
%          A.9 utt5: {C and } it's just, - /
sv          A.9 utt6: as long as the person that's spending the money, {F uh, } doesn't think about - /
^q          A.9 utt7: {F oh, } I can go out and spend anything that # I want to  /
^q          A.9 utt8: it's just unlimited, # /  

aa          B.10 utt1:  # Sure,  /
qy          B.10 utt2: it's real easy to spend other people's money.  /
^g          B.10 utt3: #  Right? /  

na^m          A.11 utt1:  Right.  /
sv          A.11 utt2:  An unlimited source  /
sv(^q)          A.11 utt3: {C so } [ they, + they ] think {D well } I'll go out and buy a four hundred toilet seat  /
sd          A.11 utt4: {C and } I could have went to K-Mart and bought it for, {D you know, } ten or fifteen <noise>.  /
sv          A.11 utt5:  {E I mean, } that kind of thing  /
%          A.11 utt6: {C and, } {F uh, } -/  

aa          B.12 utt1:  Right.  /
sd          B.12 utt2:  [ E-, + I ] don't mind them getting what they need.  /
sd          B.12 utt3:  It's just when they pay so much for it. /  

aa          A.13 utt1:  # Exactly. # /  

sv          B.14 utt1:  #  (( It takes ))  # {D you know, } very little to just shop around and, -/  

aa          A.15 utt1:  Exactly.  /
sv          A.15 utt2:  {C And } I know a lot of, {F uh, } corporations now are looking at their amount of money that's being spent  /
sv          A.15 utt3: {C and } # they're looking # --   

aa          B.16 utt1:  # That's true <laughter>. # /  

+          A.17 utt1:  -- at what's the best buy.  /
sv          A.17 utt2:  It used to be [ you could go, + if you had a company you had to go ] through certain people  /
sv          A.17 utt3: {C and } you didn't care what you paid. /  

b          B.18 utt1:  Yep. /  

sv          A.19 utt1:  I mean you just got it done.  /
sv          A.19 utt2:  Now people are putting in bids for things and  are looking at things.  /
sv          A.19 utt3:  Going to actually shop at Best Buy [ for, + {A Best Buy is one of our electronic stores } --   

b          B.20 utt1:  Right. /  

+          A.21 utt1:  -- for ] fax machines, things like that, instead of going through these office supply companies that mark up their amounts and say, {D you know, } I'll give you a legal pad for five bucks, /  

x          B.22 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sv          A.23 utt1:  {C and } you can go to another shop and get it for maybe sixty cents [ or nin-, + or ninety ] cents -- /  

b          B.24 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.25 utt1:  -- that kind of thing <sniffing>  /
%          A.25 utt2: {C so. } -/  

qh          B.26 utt1:  I'm also wondering why our taxes are still so high considering {D like } the world's probably in better shape now than it has been in the last fifty years <snorting>. /  

sv          A.27 utt1:  Except for everything keeps going up, # {D you know. } # /  

x          B.28 utt1:  # <Laughter>. #   

%          A.29 utt1:  {C And } I know as a middle class, {F uh, } {D you know, } - /
sd          A.29 utt2: {C and } also I have one dependent has --   

b          B.30 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.31 utt1:  -- my daughter  /
sd          A.31 utt2: {C and } I keep looking at {D well } where's the [ tax, + so-called tax, ] {F uh, } relief --   

aa          B.32 utt1:  # Yeah,  /
aa          B.32 utt2: I know. # /  

+          A.33 utt1:  -- # for having # children.  /
sv          A.33 utt2:  {E I mean, } there is none <noise>.  /
sd          A.33 utt3: {E I mean, } I think I paid just as much # as when # --   

aa          B.34 utt1:  # {F Oh, } I know,  /
sd          B.34 utt2: {E I mean } # [ I don't even, +   

+          A.35 utt1:  -- I didn't have her,  /
%          A.35 utt2: {C so } <pounding>. -/  

+          B.36 utt1:  {D You know, } I don't even ] get to see half my paycheck. /  

b          A.37 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.38 utt1:  Between Four Oh One K [ and, + and ] the thirty-four percent they're taking out for taxes. /  

aa          A.39 utt1:  Sure.  /
aa          A.39 utt2:  # Exactly. # /  

sd          B.40 utt1:  # <Laughter> Let alone # what I end up having to pay <laughter>. /  

aa          A.41 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
aa          A.41 utt2:  Exactly.  /
aa          A.41 utt3:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.41 utt4: that's the whole thing.  /
sv          A.41 utt5:  Now they have gotten this wonderful idea of not taking out as much taxes, /  

x          B.42 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sv          A.43 utt1:  {C but } you're still going to owe the government as much # money # -- /  

b          B.44 utt1:  # Sure. # /  

sv          A.45 utt1:  -- {C so } by the end of this coming year, what's going to happen is all these people are going to find out that they owe the government <pounding>  /
sv          A.45 utt2: {C and } it certainly isn't going to be in their savings, {F uh, } account. /  

aa          B.46 utt1:  Nope,  /
sv          B.46 utt2: they won't be able to pay. /  

sv^m          A.47 utt1:  They won't be able to pay it  /
sv          A.47 utt2: {C and } there'll be a lot of problems because of that, {D you know. }  /
sv          A.47 utt3:  Put people into, {D you know, } January or February which is always suppose to be, - /
sv          A.47 utt4: the month after Christmas is supposed to be high  spending because everything is on sale. /  

x          B.48 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sv          A.49 utt1:  Nobody's going to have the money to spend. /  

aa          B.50 utt1:  Sure  /
aa          B.50 utt2: (( none )) . /  

sv          A.51 utt1:  They're going to be paying on their taxes  /
sv          A.51 utt2: {C so } they're going to have to just cut back  /
sd          A.51 utt3: {C so, } I don't know where the answer is  /
%          A.51 utt4: # {C and } </pounding>, # -/

%          B.52 utt1:  # I don't, - /
sv          B.52 utt2: #  in the first place, {D you know, } there's also {D like } taxation without representation.  /
sd          B.52 utt3:  {D Well } I don't feel represented anymore in our government.  /
sd          B.52 utt4: {E I mean, } [ it -- +   

b          A.53 utt1:  Yeah,  /
b^r          A.53 utt2: Yeah. /  

+          B.54 utt1:  -- <Snorting> it's ] certainly not a government for me.  /
sd          B.54 utt2:  # It doesn't take care of my needs <laughter>. # /  

aa          A.55 utt1:  # No,  /
aa^r          A.55 utt2: no.  /
sv          A.55 utt3: # {D Well, } that's the whole thing.  /
sv          A.55 utt4:  I think people are getting so  fed up with it.  /
sv          A.55 utt5:  Now, we go through another election and listen # to all these lies about the, # -/  

sv          B.56 utt1:  # <Laughter> [ an-, + {C and } ] people don't care # anymore either. /  

aa          A.57 utt1:  No.  /
aa^r          A.57 utt2: No. /  

sv          B.58 utt1:  People don't want to go out # to vote. # /  

sv          A.59 utt1:  # {D Well, } I don't # think people think they can make a difference.  /
sv          A.59 utt2:  {C And } when you've got candidates as you do. - /
sv          A.59 utt3: It's candidates that have money -- /  

aa          B.60 utt1:  Yep. /  

sv          A.61 utt1:  -- {C and } it's backed by big business.  /
sv(^q)          A.61 utt2: {C And } big business says {D well } we don't care about the little person  /
sv          A.61 utt3: {C and, } {F uh, } {D you know, } you're not going to get anymore Abe Lincolns --   

aa          B.62 utt1:  No,  /
sv          B.62 utt2: [ {C but } -- +   

+          A.63 utt1:  -- around. /  

+          B.64 utt1:  -- {C but } ] [ that, + that's ] going to backfire because --   

aa          A.65 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
qh          A.65 utt2:  # {D Well } who knows, {F uh, }  /
%          A.65 utt3: yeah. # /  

+          B.66 utt1:  -- # <Laughter> little people who # buy everything,  /
%          B.66 utt2: {C so } <laughter>. -/  

sv(^q)          A.67 utt1:  Generations from now we might, {F uh, } set back in our little, {F uh, } rocking chairs and watch our grandchildren go through an entirely different system of things and say, {D you know, } this government itself isn't working.  /
sv          A.67 utt2: Just like the communist government of, {F uh, } the # old U S S R. # /  

b          B.68 utt1:  # Yeah <laughter>. # /  

sv(^q)          A.69 utt1:  {C And } maybe that's going to happen to America where they'll say, hey  /
^q          A.69 utt2: we're fed up. /  

b          B.70 utt1:  # <Snort> Yeah,  /
am          B.70 utt2: I wonder though <laughter>. # /  

sv          A.71 utt1:  # Maybe it'll have to be # just individual state tax. /  

x          B.72 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

sv          A.73 utt1:  And each state take care of itself and no government type of, {F uh, } {D you know, } - /
sv          A.73 utt2:  where you have to pay out to federal or whatever. - /
h          A.73 utt3: I don't know.  /
qh          A.73 utt4: Who knows  /
%          A.73 utt5: {C but, } -/  

b          B.74 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd          B.74 utt2: I'm not <laughter>.  /
h          B.74 utt3: I don't know,  /
sd          B.74 utt4: I can't think of any easy answers to it  /
sv          B.74 utt5: {C but } something has to happen,  /
sd          B.74 utt6: {E I mean } --   

aa          A.75 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
aa          A.75 utt2: yeah. /  

+          B.76 utt1:  -- I'm certainly fed up with it. /  

aa          A.77 utt1:  Yeah <laughter>.  /
sv          A.77 utt2:  Everybody is,  /
sd          A.77 utt3: in fact, I'm not sending in my check </child_talking>, /
