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FILENAME:	3162_1352_1188
TOPIC#:		341
DATE:		910925
TRANSCRIBER:	GLP
UTT_CODER:	mlg
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TOPICALITY:	2
NATURALNESS:	2
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
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o          A.1 utt1:   Okay.  /
sv          A.1 utt2: {F Uh } <laughter>, it's not such a bad  idea to think about judges, {F uh, } {D you know, } taking the idea  of, {F uh, } {F uh, } sentencing [ in-, + into ] their hands versus, {D you know, }  the jury, especially if it's a highly publicized case such as, {F uh, } you've got cases right now that are going on that everybody's very well informed of or have read, {F uh, } certain, {F uh, } things in regards to  cases like the Dahlmer case in Milwaukee and stuff.  /
sv         A.1 utt3:  {C So } [ it's, + it ]  may be an idea to think about, {D you know, } cost.  /
sv          A.1 utt4:  Trying to find a jury --   

b          B.2 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.3 utt1:   -- so you can get a jury as far as, {F uh, }  they may say they're not biased,  /
sv          A.3 utt2: {C but } deep down they are [ a-, + against ]  this person or  whatever,  /
sv          A.3 utt3: {C so, } {F uh, } I don't think it's such a bad idea to think about.  /
%          A.3 utt4:  {C So, } -/  

b          B.4 utt1:   Right,  /
%          B.4 utt2: [ that it, + that it, ] - /
%          B.4 utt3: I, - /
sv          B.4 utt4:  a judge would be more consistent from one case to the next [ and [ not + --   

ba          A.5 utt1:   Exactly. /  

+          B.6 utt1:   -- not ] de-, + [ and, + and, ] {F uh, } not depend ]  so much [ on the, + on the ] emotions of a particular case, but be able to put it in overall perspective. /  

b         A.7 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.8 utt1:   {D Well } <breathing> --   

b          A.9 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          B.10 utt1:   -- [ I, + I ] certainly haven't thought much  about this  /
%          B.10 utt2: {C but, } -/  

x          A.11 utt1:   <Laughter>.   

x          B.12 utt1:   <Laughter>.   

qy^g          A.13 utt1:   Catches you off guard, doesn't it?  <Laughter>. /  

ny          B.14 utt1:   Yes,  /
ny^r          B.14 utt2: yes,  /
sv^e          B.14 utt3: [ some of them, + some of them ]  do  /
sv          B.14 utt4: {C and } some of them don't,  /
%          B.14 utt5: {C but, } {F uh, } this one, {F uh, } - /
sd          B.14 utt6:   I was trying to remember back.  /
sd          B.14 utt7:  It seems to me [ that, + that, ] {D you know, } when  I studied civics in --   

b          A.15 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

+          B.16 utt1:   -- school or stuff, that [ this, + the ]  juries being involved in the sentencing [ wasn't, + wasn't ] so much.  /
sd          B.16 utt2:   {C And } [ I'm, + I'm ] trying to figure out whether [ that's, + ]  I'm remembering wrong or whether that's [  a + ] --   

sv          A.17 utt1:   I didn't think they --   

+          B.18 utt1:   -- by state. /  

 +         A.19 utt1:   -- were either.  /
sv          A.19 utt2: I thought the sentencing was done by the judge. /  

b          B.20 utt1:   Yeah. /  

sv          A.21 utt1:   {E I mean, } it's either guilty or not guilty. /  

b          B.22 utt1:   Yeah.  /
%          B.22 utt2:  {C And, } {F uh, } [ I, +  I ] guess,  /
sd          B.22 utt3:  {C and } I don't know whether it's by state or whether there's been some <breathing> --   

^2          A.23 utt1:   Changes. /  

+          B.24 utt1:   -- [ supreme, + supreme ]  court decision perhaps that said that, {F uh, } that, {F uh, } as part of the trial by the peers that had to include the sentencing or --   

b          A.25 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

 +         B.26 utt1:   -- too, or whatever.  /
%          B.26 utt2: I, - /
b          B.26 utt3: yeah,  /
sd          B.26 utt4: {C but, }  [ I, + {D yeah, }  I ] certainly wouldn't be, {F uh, } {F uh, } worried about that.  /
sv          B.26 utt5:   I guess in terms of [ the, + ] {F uh, } {D you know, } [ ha-, + having ]  a judge do it would seem to me to be [ more, + more ] fair [ and + --   

ba          A.27 utt1:   {F Oh, } sure. /  

+          B.28 utt1:   -- and, ] {F uh } --   

b          A.29 utt1:   Yeah,  /
b^r          A.29 utt2: yeah. /  

+          B.30 utt1:   -- unbiased.  /
sv          B.30 utt2:  {F Uh, } in terms of doing away [ with  the, + with the ] unanimous jury, [ I guess, + I guess ] I, {F uh, } would be a little more leery of that kind of a change [ in, + in ] the trial system.  /
sv          B.30 utt3:   [ That, + that's ] just [ a, +  such a ]  tradition [ that it's a, + that it's got ] to be a unanimous --   

ba          A.31 utt1:   Exactly. /  

+          B.32 utt1:   -- jury --    

ba          A.33 utt1:   Exactly.   /
b          A.33 utt2: Yeah. /  

+          B.34 utt1:   -- that, {F uh, } I don't know [ where you'd, + where you'd ] draw the line anywhere else.   {F Uh, } {D you know, } {F uh } --   

b          A.35 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          B.36 utt1:   -- two-thirds or three-fourths or whatever. /  

b          A.37 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.38 utt1:   {C But, } {F uh, } [ {C and, } + {C and, } ] [ [ I, + I, ] + I ] certainly wouldn't feel comfortable with [ just a, + just a ] bare majority. /  

aa          A.39 utt1:   Exactly. /  

%          B.40 utt1:   {F Uh, } /  

b          A.41 utt1:   Uh-huh,  /
b          A.41 utt2: yeah.  /
sv          A.41 utt3:  That's kind of how I, {D you know, } - /
sv          A.41 utt4: in certain cases I can see them going, {F uh, } {F uh, } just basically with a judge, guilty or not guilty --   

b          B.42 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.43 utt1:   -- verdict --   

b          B.44 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.45 utt1:   -- {F uh, } simply from a judge in  highly publicized cases versus the small, {F uh, } maybe, you did a crime that  was, {F uh, } burglary or  whatever  /
sd          A.45 utt2: {C and } it goes into the court case or whatever  /
sd          A.45 utt3:  {C and } it's not highly publicized.  /
sv          A.45 utt4:  {C But } when you get into these highly publicized cases where everybody knows details whether it's through the NATIONAL ENQUIRER --   

 b         B.46 utt1:   <Laughter> Yeah,  /
^2          B.46 utt2: whatever. /  

+          A.47 utt1:   -- or whatever. /  

b          B.48 utt1:   Yeah. /  

sv(^q)         A.49 utt1:   {F Uh, } it's the idea that person might initially have this thought, {D well, } jeez this person's guilty no matter what.  /
sv          A.49 utt2: I'm not going to listen to the facts  [ or + ] --   

b          B.50 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.51 utt1:   -- [ and, + and ] con their way into, {F uh, }   getting  past the lawyers and getting through that.  /
sv          A.51 utt2: {C But, } {F uh, } also there's  aspect of cost  /
sd          A.51 utt3: {C and } [ I, + I'm ] not quite sure how much cost it  does take for, {F uh, } the judicial system to try and call a jury, whether it's very costly, or if it's something that's not costly or what.  /
sd          A.51 utt4: {D You know, } being that I'm not in [ the, + that ] area I really don't know.  /
sd          A.51 utt5:   {C But } I wonder --   

b          B.52 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.53 utt1:   -- if there is some big expense in trying to call a jury to trial and then having to pay whatever they have to pay if there's something that they have to pay.  /
sd          A.53 utt2: I know companies have to pay for these people to be off from work.  Or --   

b          B.54 utt1:   Yeah. /  

+          A.55 utt1:   -- at least give them the time off from work.  /
%          A.55 utt2:  {F Uh, } whether it's, - /
sd          A.55 utt3: I think it's with pay.  /
sd          A.55 utt4:   If I remember, jury duty is with pay. /  

%          B.56 utt1:   {D Well, } -/  

%@          A.57 utt1:   {C And } it's not,   

%          B.58 utt1:   [ {C And, } + {C and } ]  I'm, - /
%          B.58 utt2: I, - /
%          B.58 utt3: I'd, - /
sd          B.58 utt4: [ I know it is, + I know it is ] [ where I, + where I ] work. /  

+@          A.59 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.60 utt1:   {C But, } I'm not sure [ that that's, + that that's ] necessarily required.  {F Uh, } {D you know, } by law that it has to be --   

^2          A.61 utt1:   Paid, right. /  

+          B.62 utt1:   -- paid.  /
sv          B.62 utt2: {F Uh, } I suspect [ that's a, + that's a ]  benefit of a bigger company.  /
sv          B.62 utt3: [ {C But,  } + {C but } ] there are --   

b          A.63 utt1:   Uh-huh. /  

+          B.64 utt1:   -- certainly [ [ some, +   

^2          A.65 utt1:   Some that may decide not to. /  

+          B.66 utt1:   Some ] that, + some that ] wouldn't, {F uh, }  /
 aa         B.66 utt2: yeah, / 
