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FILENAME:	3029_1279_1264
TOPIC#:		322
DATE:		910607
TRANSCRIBER:	LAB
UTT_CODER:      lsh
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REMARKS:        The third time through Speaker B had line noise and 
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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          A.1 utt2: {D well, } I'll start off being controversial.  /
sd          A.1 utt3:   I'm in favor of it. /  

sv          B.2 utt1:  That doesn't necessarily mean you're controversial./  

sd           A.3 utt1:  <Laughter> {D Well, } it seems to be in the current situations <noise>  /
sv           A.3 utt2: {C but, } {F uh, } I still feel that it could be a deterrent to crime.    Particularly with the increase of serious crime that's going on now. /  

sv           B.4 utt1:  {D Well, } I think that those crimes which are punishable by the death sentence, need to be reevaluated. /  

b          A.5 utt1:  Okay. /  

sd            B.6 utt1:  I think there are other crimes that could  easily draw the death penalty and  not <laughter> make me feel bad at all. /  

aa          A.7 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          A.7 utt2: I think, {F uh, } -/  

sd          B.8 utt1:  Crimes against children is one of them. /  

aa          A.9 utt1:  {F Oh, } definitely.  /
sv          A.9 utt2: [ Any, + any ]  crimes against person,   

b          B.10 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+           A.11 utt1:  {F uh, } I feel, {F uh, } there should be more than a slap on the hand,   

b          B.12 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.13 utt1:  and being sent to prison and being released in, {F uh, } two or three years. /  

sd           B.14 utt1:  {D Actually, } I would like to see the system revert a lot back to some of the forms of punishment that exist in Middle Eastern countries.  /
sd          B.14 utt2:   If you steal, you lose a hand. /  

b          A.15 utt1:  {F Oh, } yeah.  /
%          A.15 utt2:  That's a, -/  

sv           B.16 utt1:  {D You know, } {F uh, } <laughter> if you kill, you lose your life.  /
qw          B.16 utt2: What's wrong with that? /  

sd          A.17 utt1:  I don't see a thing wrong with that. /  

b          B.18 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.19 utt1:  I believe that, {F uh, }   

%          B.20 utt1:  {F Uh, } /  

+          A.21 utt1:  {D Well, } it's just [ an, + an ] example.  /
sd           A.21 utt2:   I think there's, {F uh, } someone that's on trial right now --   

b          B.22 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.23 utt1:  -- here in the Dallas area,  /
sd          A.23 utt2: {C and } they were interviewing  the, the, - /
sd          A.23 utt3: a young lady was killed sometime back,   

b          B.24 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.25 utt1:  a young girl.    

b          B.26 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+@           A.27 utt1:  A personal trial and the reporter was asking a [ stup-, + ]  stupid question of the people outside. /  *[[ Shouldn't the continued statement end after "A personal trial" and a new slash unit begin? ]]
^q          A.27 utt2:  {D Well, } how do you feel about this? /  

b          B.28 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.29 utt1:  {C And, } {D you know } <laughter>,    

b          B.30 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+@           A.31 utt1:  how do they feel about it, I'm sure that, {F uh, } they want it over with  /  *[[ Seems that a slash should be placed after "feel about it" ]]
sv          A.31 utt2: {C and } they want the person punished and punished,   

b          B.32 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.33 utt1:  properly. /  

b          B.34 utt1:  Uh-huh  /
sv           B.34 utt2: <breathing>.  Deciding what that proper punishment is, is one thing.  /
sv            B.34 utt3: I think that there should be no way, [ I, + I ] realize that  innocent people could go to, {F uh, } what is it, lethal injection now. /  

aa          A.35 utt1:  Yes. /  

sv          B.36 utt1:  Innocent people could do that,  /
sv           B.36 utt2: {C but } for every  innocent person who would be executed, hopefully there would be ten guilty. /  

b          A.37 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sd          A.37 utt2:  {D Well, }   

b          B.38 utt1:  {F Uh, }   

+           A.39 utt1:  I feel like [ the, + the ] cost of [ s-, + ] someone who's quoting figures  (( made the ))  cost,   

+          B.40 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.41 utt1:   (( at {D like } ))  thirty thousand dollars,   

b          B.42 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.43 utt1:  a year --   

b          B.44 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.45 utt1:  -- to keep someone in prison. /  

bf          B.46 utt1:  To maintain a prison inma-,  /
aa          B.46 utt2: that's right.  /
sv          B.46 utt3:  That's stupid. /  

sv           A.47 utt1:  {C And, } {D well, } the problem there is they're not keeping the right ones in prison in many cases. /  

b          B.48 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.49 utt1:  There are more,   

b          B.50 utt1:  Sure. /  

+          A.51 utt1:  and more instances being on the news, /  

b          B.52 utt1:  <<Very faint>>  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.53 utt1:  {C or } this individual was out on the streets,   

b          B.54 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.55 utt1:  on probation or parole and killed someone else.    

b          B.56 utt1:  Sure. /  

+          A.57 utt1:  Or,    

b          B.58 utt1:  Sure. /  

+          A.59 utt1:  seriously injured someone. /  

sd          B.60 utt1:  {D Well, } I don't have solutions to the problems,  /
sd          B.60 utt2:  {C but } {D you know } you have these, - /
sv          B.60 utt3:  this would be nice [ if + ]  /
sv          B.60 utt4: {C and } there's probably  thousands of holes in that theory,  /
sv,sd,o@        B.60 utt5: {C but } I think that if you did something, for example,  to an individual and  caused them to lose the ability to earn a living,  I remember a man drove by randomly shot a woman in the head while she was driving -- *[[ Seems that "I remember' starts a new thought ]]

b          A.61 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          B.62 utt1:  -- blinded her.  /
sv           B.62 utt2:  I think then that a life sentence to restitution is appropriate. /  

aa          A.63 utt1:  Yes. /  

sv          B.64 utt1:  I think he should spend the rest of his life working to support that individual --   

aa          A.65 utt1:  Yes,  /
aa          A.65 utt2: indeed. /  

+          B.66 utt1:  -- or the family of an individual.    

b          A.67 utt1:  <<Very faint>>  Yeah. /  

+           B.68 utt1:  {F Uh, } who has been harmed [ you, + you, ]  {D you know. }  /
sd          B.68 utt2:  People who kill policemen.  /
sd,o@        B.68 utt3: Policemen who are killed in the line of duty.   *[[ Between this utterance and B.70, there seem to be 3 slash units ]]

b          A.69 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+@            B.70 utt1:  They may or may not have been willfully intending to kill that policeman, but that family still has no provider.   *[[ See note above.  Also, this should probably end in a slash because B.72 starts with a coord. conjunct. and a subject ]]

aa          A.71 utt1:  No. /  

+          B.72 utt1:  {C And } I s-, -/  

sv           A.73 utt1:  Here again, anytime anyone goes out with a gun in their hand and crime on their mind --   

b          B.74 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.75 utt1:  -- {F uh, } the opportunity exists for someone to get killed. /  

aa          B.76 utt1:  That's right. /  

sd           A.77 utt1:  Now I'm not in favor of gun control to the   (( ))  degree or anything because, {F uh, } there are uses for guns which are noncriminal -- /  

b          B.78 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv            A.79 utt1:  -- {C but } it seems that the criminal element are the ones that are using them.  {F Uh, } aside from domestic disputes, husbands shooting wives or vice versa. /  

b          B.80 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv            A.81 utt1:  {C But } these individuals, if they have a gun with them,  I think that [ the, + the ] sentence should be even longer than if they don't. /  

ar          B.82 utt1:  [ I don't, + I don't ] agree with the length,   

sd          A.83 utt1:  {D Well, }   

+          B.84 utt1:  of the sentence though.  /
sv          B.84 utt2: I think expediency is the answer. /  

+           A.85 utt1:  {D Well, } {C but } here again, {F uh, }  if a matter of expediency,   

b          B.86 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.87 utt1:  part of these costs like the people on Death Row --   

b          B.88 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.89 utt1:  -- is that their appeals can take years and years. /  

aa          B.90 utt1:  That's right. /  

sv          A.91 utt1:  There should be some, {F uh, } - /
sd           A.91 utt2: I know there's a law, I believe, that it's automatic appeal if it's a death sentence. /  

b          B.92 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

 sv           A.93 utt1:  {D Well, } I think that automatic appeal ought to  take place, {F uh, } within a reasonable length of time, say six months./  

b          B.94 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv           A.95 utt1:  And a decision be made and not drag out in the courts for years,   

b          B.96 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.97 utt1:  because of misplaced commas or whatever technicalities,   

aa          B.98 utt1:  That's right, /  

+          A.99 utt1:  there might be. /  

b^m          B.100 utt1:  technical, - /
sv           B.100 utt2: I think that there should be a statute of limitations on appeals. / 

aa          A.101 utt1:  Right,  /
sv           A.101 utt2: [ there's got to be a, +   

%          B.102 utt1:  Yo-, - /
sv          B.102 utt2: you can appeal it once. /  

+          A.103 utt1:  there's got to be a ] time limit. /  

sv           B.104 utt1:  I think if it is appealed one time and the appeal is  turned down or the sentence stands, then you might be allowed one more  appeal [ if it is, + [ if, + if ] it is, ]   

^2          A.105 utt1:  [ A, + a ] [ legit, +   

+          B.106 utt1:  contradictory. /  

+          A.107 utt1:  legitimate ] appeal,   

b          B.108 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.109 utt1:  not a technicality,    

aa          B.110 utt1:  That's right. /  

+          A.111 utt1:   of, {F uh, }   

b          B.112 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.113 utt1:  if, [ and + ] they're not arguing that the guy or woman committed the crime.  /
sd(^q)       A.113 utt2: They're arguing over, {D well, } were his civil rights  violated because, {F uh } --   

b          B.114 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+           A.115 utt1:  -- someone didn't file the proper paper at the proper time. /  

b          B.116 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.116 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sv           A.117 utt1:  Those are the things that have caused them to drag out I think. /  

aa          B.118 utt1:  That's right.  /
sv           B.118 utt2: {D Well, } one of the sad things is that so many of these never actually come to trial because [ of, + of ] the process in which the criminals were apprehended. /  

b          A.119 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          B.120 utt1:  {E I mean, } {F uh, } you know the guy is guilty.  /
sv          B.120 utt2:   You know he's done what he's done. /
sv         B.120 utt3: [ You, + you ] may have stood there and seen it.  /
sv           B.120 utt4:   {C But } because he wasn't read his rights whenever he was arrested, {D you know, }   

bf          A.121 utt1:  He didn't see his,   

+          B.122 utt1:  [ he, + he ] goes free. /  

+          A.123 utt1:  lawyer as quickly as he should have,   

b          B.124 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.125 utt1:  or [ some, +   

b          B.126 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
b          B.126 utt2:  Yeah. /  

+          A.127 utt1:  some ] Mickey Mouse type thing <laughter> like that. /  

aa          B.128 utt1:  Right,  /
sd           B.128 utt2: {C and } I realize that that is designed to protect the innocent.  /
sv          B.128 utt3:  It's also designed to line the pockets of lawyers. /  

aa          A.129 utt1:  {F Oh, } yes <laughter>. /  

sv           B.130 utt1:  {C And, } {F uh, } [ I, + I ] just don't think that, <laughter>  /
sv           B.130 utt2: I think we could get along a lot better in our criminal justice system if we had <laughter>  some statute of limitations on lawyers <laughter>. /  

aa          A.131 utt1:  <Laughter> Yes. /  

qy^d          B.132 utt1:  I hope you're not a lawyer <laughter>. /  

nn          A.133 utt1:  No,  /
ng          A.133 utt2: I'm not a lawyer <laughter>. /  

x          B.134 utt1:  <Laughter>.   

%          A.135 utt1:  I, - /
sd          A.135 utt2: I'm an accountant  /
aa          A.135 utt3: {C and } I agree. /  

b          B.136 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd           A.137 utt1:  We practice law ourselves because it's too expensive to hire lawyers,   

aa          B.138 utt1:  Absolutely. /  

+          A.139 utt1:  to a degree. /  

sv          B.140 utt1:  That's why you check books out from the library. /  

aa          A.141 utt1:  <<Very faint>>  There you go. /  

sv           B.142 utt1:  {C But } I really believe that our justice system [ is, + is ] the best around  /
sv          B.142 utt2: {C but } it's not perfect,  /
sv          B.142 utt3: {C and } that doesn't mean  that you leave it in tact. / *[[in tact -> intact]] 

sv           A.143 utt1:  {D Well, } [ it's, + it's ] a case that we  have [ a, + a ] legal system which the criminals have found a way to use and a way to benefit them rather than the public itself. /  

aa          B.144 utt1:  That's right. /  

sv          A.145 utt1:  {C So } --   

aa          B.146 utt1:  That's right. /  

+          A.147 utt1:  -- that's how we get caught in this, {F uh } --   

b          B.148 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.149 utt1:  -- sort of a catch twenty-two. /  

aa          B.150 utt1:  That's right. /  

sv           A.151 utt1:  {C But } you have to continue, {F uh, }  to protect the innocent you're giving an open door to the guilty. /  

aa          B.152 utt1:  That's right.  /
%          B.152 utt2: [ {C And, } + {C and, } ]  it, - /
sv           B.152 utt3: I don't know there just seems to be so many clever ways to avoid the real intent of the law by following the letter. /  

b          A.153 utt1:  Yeah. /  

%          B.154 utt1:  {C And } that just, - /
sd          B.154 utt2: that really does ruffle my feathers,   

aa          A.155 utt1:  Yes <laughter>.   

+          B.156 utt1:  at times. /  

+          A.157 utt1:  It does,   

sd          B.158 utt1:  {E I mean } I can just get so,    

+          A.159 utt1:  most people. /  

+          B.160 utt1:  aggravated about it.  /
sv           B.160 utt2: {C But, } {D you know, } [ it's, + it's ]  going to take smarter people than me to solve the problem <laughter>.  /
sv          B.160 utt3: {C And } I hope,   

sv          A.161 utt1:  Again [ one of our + --   

+          B.162 utt1:  not lawyers <laughter>. /  

+           A.163 utt1:  -- one of our ] problems is that, {F uh, }  our legislature and the state and our national congress, the majority of the members thereof are lawyers. / 
