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FILENAME:	4548_1190_1684
TOPIC#:		322
DATE:		920403
TRANSCRIBER:	nk
UTT_CODER:	mlg
DIFFICULTY:	1
TOPICALITY:	1
NATURALNESS:	1
ECHO_FROM_B:	1
ECHO_FROM_A:	1
STATIC_ON_A:	1
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	2
BACKGROUND_B:	3
REMARKS:        Can hear a baby on B's side all the way through.

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 o         A.1 utt1:  {D Well, } {D actually, } {F uh, } -/  

x          B.2 utt1:  <Baby>.   

 sd         A.3 utt1: [  I, + I ] don't think I'm in the, {F uh, } majority [ of, + ] [ in, + in ] Texas  /
sd          A.3 utt2: # I don't think I agree with, # -/  

b          B.4 utt1:  # {F Oh } really. # /  

nn          A.5 utt1:  No. /  

qy^d          B.6 utt1:  You don't believe in it? /  

no          A.7 utt1:  {F Uh, } I wouldn't say that.  /
sd          A.7 utt2: I think I would have said that a few years ago. /  

x          B.8 utt1:  <Baby>.   

sd          A.9 utt1:  When I was younger I thought it was, {F uh, } <sniffing> a sign of a civilized society if you didn't have, {F uh, } capital punishment  /
sd          A.9 utt2:  {C but, }  {F um, } {F uh, } maybe slowly changing my opinion. /  

b          B.10 utt1:  Yeah. /  

 sd         A.11 utt1:  I'm not thoroughly opposed to it.  /
sd          A.11 utt2:  I still think it's sort of true that a more civilized society wouldn't have to use capital punishment  /
sd          A.11 utt3: {C but } I'm beginning to believe this is less civilized society than I thought <laughter>. /  

sd          B.12 utt1:  <Laughter> You sound a lot like a friend of mine.  [ A -- +   

b          A.13 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.14 utt1:  -- a ] girl I hang out with.  /
sd          B.14 utt2:  She has [ very, + very ] black and white <baby> opinions, {D you know. }  /
sd          B.14 utt3: There's no gray in her opinions, {D you know. }  /
sd          B.14 utt4: [  She, + she ] probably would agree more with you  /
h          B.14 utt5: [ {C but, } +  {C but } ] I don't know.  /
sv          B.14 utt6: I think I would rather a person go ahead and be put down than give them the <baby> opportunity to get out and do it again.  /
sd          B.14 utt7:  I've never had [ a, + a ] punishment or [ a, + a ] crime like a murder touch my immediate family -- /  

b          A.15 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.16 utt1:  -- {C but } I still feel very strongly that capital punishment is a good way [ to, + to ] punish, especially criminals who seem to have absolutely no remorse for what they've done. /  

b          A.17 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          B.18 utt1:  {C And } we see that more and more.  /
sd          B.18 utt2: {D Like } in our state right now, there's a fourteen year old boy who raped and then killed a seven year old girl -- /  

b          A.19 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          B.20 utt1:  -- {D you know, } that's fourteen years old.  /
qh          B.20 utt2:  What's he going to be doing when he turns into an adult. /  

aa          A.21 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sv          A.21 utt2:  I certainly don't, {F uh, } advocate turning people like that loose. /  

b          B.22 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.23 utt1:  I'm not sure executing them, {F uh, } does anymore than keeping them in jail,  /
%          A.23 utt2: {C but, }  {F uh, } -/  

aa          B.24 utt1:  No  /
sv          B.24 utt2: it doesn't  /
sv          B.24 utt3: {C but, }    

x          A.25 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

+          B.26 utt1:  it costs less. /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sv          A.27 utt2: [  That, + that's ] # a factor. # /  

b          B.28 utt1:  # {C And, }  # yeah,  /
sd          B.28 utt2: to me it is.  /
sd          B.28 utt3:  {E I mean, } I work and I pay my taxes  /
sd          B.28 utt4: {C and } I lived out in Texas for a little while  /
%          B.28 utt5: {C and } they're - /
sd          B.28 utt6: {C and } that's a pretty heavy state compared to Georgia </baby>.  /
sd          B.28 utt7: {E I mean } you guys [ are, + are ] a lot more, {F uh, } for to each his own even than we are in Georgia. /  

b          A.29 utt1:  Right. /  

sd          B.30 utt1:  {C But } even in Georgia that's the attitude for the most part.  /
^q         B.30 utt2:  If I work and  pay my dues --   

b          A.31 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.32 utt1:  -- you work and pay your dues and we'd get along just fine. /  

b          A.33 utt1:  Yeah. /  

^q          B.34 utt1:  {C But } when I've got to work to pay my dues and your dues <laughter> --   

b          A.35 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          B.36 utt1:  -- then I don't like you very much # anymore. # /  

b          A.37 utt1:  # Yeah. #  /
%          A.37 utt2:  {D Well, } I, - /
sv          A.37 utt3: the cost is something  /
sv          A.37 utt4: {C but } [ it's, +  {C but } I think it's  ] relatively unimportant compared to what's the most effective way of,   

x          B.38 utt1:  <Noise>.   

+          A.39 utt1:  dealing with crime  /
sv          A.39 utt2: {C and } I guess I would like, - /
h          A.39 utt3: I don't know,  /
sd          A.39 utt4: the European countries certainly, {F uh, } none of them have capital punishment  /
sv          A.39 utt5: # {C and } [ they + # --   

b          B.40 utt1:  # {F Oh, } really. # /  

+          A.41 utt1:  -- they ] don't have a crime problem either.  /
%         A.41 utt2: No,  /
%          A.41 utt3: you can't, - /
sd          A.41 utt4: they don't execute anybody in Britain or France  /
sd          A.41 utt5: {C and } I don't believe they do in Germany or  Italy either <throat_clearing>  /
sv          A.41 utt6: {C and } they don't have the crime problems we do.  /
sv          A.41 utt7: I don't really think that there is too much of a relationship between the two. /  

b          B.42 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd        A.43 utt1:  I guess what worries me about capital punishment is, {F uh, } when I see people enthusiastic about it and, {F uh, } {F uh, } sort of bloodthirsty.  I think it brings out the worst [ in the, + in the ] people who do the punishing  /
sd          A.43 utt2: {C and } [ the, + ] # [ that, + that ] bothers me. # /  

ba          B.44 utt1:  # You might be right. # /  

%          A.45 utt1:  {C But } it, - /
%          A.45 utt2: {C but, }  {F uh, } -/  

sd          B.46 utt1:  {E I mean } [ I, + I'd ] hate to be the person to pull the switch, {D you know, } /  

x          A.47 utt1:  <Throat_clearing>.   

sd          B.48 utt1:  I would never in a million years want that job -- /  

b          A.49 utt1:  Huh. /  

sv          B.50 utt1:  -- {C but } I do believe it's necessary  /
%          B.50 utt2: {C and } I, -/  

b          A.51 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          B.52 utt1:  On the one hand [ I, + I ] guess I admire the person who has the guts to do it because [ I couldn't -- +   

b          A.53 utt1:  Huh. /  

+          B.54 utt1:  -- I couldn't ] stand behind a gun and shoot somebody for nothing  /
sd          B.54 utt2: {C and } I couldn't pull the switch  /
%          B.54 utt3: {C but, }  # {F uh, } # -/  

%          A.55 utt1:  # {D Well } {D actually } # I, wha-, - /
sd          A.55 utt2: the other thing that bothers me is when it becomes a political issue because [ I don't really think it, + {F uh, } I don't really think it's ] a very important aspect of fighting crime or law and order or  anything else.  /
sv          A.55 utt3: I think it just becomes a, {F uh, } <throat_clearing> symbolic I'm tougher than you are type of emotional issue for politicians  /
%          A.55 utt4: {C so } -- -/  

b          B.56 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.57 utt1:  -- I would like for it to be settled once for all and, {F uh, } get in the background while the more important issues get discussed, # {F uh, } {F uh, } # /  

b          B.58 utt1:  # Right. # /  

sd          A.59 utt1:   (( Like I said, ))  some years ago, I think I would have said there's no place for capital punishment in the,   

x          B.60 utt1:  <Baby>.   

+          A.61 utt1:  civilized western country. /  

b          B.62 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.63 utt1:  Now [ I'm, + I'm ] not so sure of that.  /
sd          A.63 utt2: [ [  I'm, + I, ] + I ] wouldn't vote against somebody just because it was for capital punishment  # and # --   

 qw         B.64 utt1:  # [ What # -- +   

 +         A.65 utt1:  -- nor the other way around. /  

+          B.66 utt1:  -- what's ] making you become more convinced that it might be a # good way of punishing </baby>? # /  

%          A.67 utt1:  # {F Uh, } I guess # [ I'm, + I'm, ] - /
%          A.67 utt2: my view of <sniffing>, {F uh, } - /
%          A.67 utt3: my, - /
sv          A.67 utt4: I'm beginning to believe that some people are simply not rehabilitatable and, {F uh, } that, {F uh, } {F uh, }   

x          B.68 utt1:  <Baby>.   

+          A.69 utt1:  costs and other factors justify, {F uh, } {F uh, } executing people. /  

 b         B.70 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.71 utt1:  Maybe it's more a symbolic gesture [ that, + ] {F uh, } <sniffing> {F uh, } than anything else  /
sd          A.71 utt2: {C and, }  {F uh, } I've also never been a victim although [ I have some, + I have two ] friends whose wives were murdered  /
sd          A.71 utt3: # {C and, }  {F uh } # --   

ba          B.72 utt1:  # {F Oh, } gosh # <baby>. /  

+          A.73 utt1:  -- <Sniffing> I can imagine that, {F uh, } {F uh, } for some people it would be the only form of justice in that case. /  

aa          B.74 utt1:  </Baby> {F Oh } yes,  /
sd          B.74 utt2: if it ever touched my fam-, -/ 
