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FILENAME:	2870_1236_1231
TOPIC#:		355
DATE:		910513
TRANSCRIBER:	csw
UTT_CODER:	stm
DIFFICULTY:	2
TOPICALITY:	3
NATURALNESS:	2
ECHO_FROM_B:	3
ECHO_FROM_A:	2
STATIC_ON_A:	3
STATIC_ON_B:	1
BACKGROUND_A:	1
BACKGROUND_B:	1
REMARKS:  	Caller A has the T V playing loudly in the background, also
there is a constant line hum on Caller A's single conversation.

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o          A.1 utt1:  Okay,  /
qy          A.1 utt2: do you vote regular? <TV> <Baby>. /  

ny          B.2 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sd^e@          B.2 utt2: I do, I try and vote in every single election. /  *[[slash error; two utts]]

b^m          A.3 utt1:  Every one. /  

sd          B.4 utt1:  {C But, } {F uh, } <laughter> that's just  since, in the past say about six years.  /
sd          B.4 utt2: Before that I really didn't pay any attention at all. /  

sd          A.5 utt1:  {D Well } {D see, } that's me.  /
sd          A.5 utt2:   I've never paid any attention to voting. /  

bh          B.6 utt1:  {F Oh, } you haven't? /  

nn          A.7 utt1:  Huh-uh. /  

b          B.8 utt1:  Yeah.  /
sd          B.8 utt2:  I didn't use to,  /
%          B.8 utt3:  {C but } now I really, - /
sd          B.8 utt4: {C because } I get so angry about what goes on  /
sv          B.8 utt5: {C and then } I feel like I can't  really complain too much, unless <laughter>, -/  

^2          A.9 utt1:  Unless you have something to do with it. /  

aa          B.10 utt1:  Yeah. /  

aa          A.11 utt1:  Right. /  

sd          B.12 utt1:  {C But } the problem is, that I am  very liberal politically  /
sd          B.12 utt2: {C and so } I hardly ever have anybody that wins that I vote for <laughter>. /  

b^m          A.13 utt1:  {F Oh, } liberal,  /
qw          A.13 utt2: [ by, +  what do you mean by ]  liberal, {F um. } /  

sd          B.14 utt1:  Liberal politically,  /
sd          B.14 utt2: I'm, {D you know, }  {D like } pretty left wing [ Demo-, +  Democrat, ]  /
%          B.14 utt3: {C so. } -/  

sd          A.15 utt1:  {D Well } {D see, } I don't know anything about politics. /  

bh          B.16 utt1:  {F Oh, } you don't? /  

qw          A.17 utt1:  {F Uh, } [ what's the main, +   what's the main ] difference between Republicans and  Democrats? /  

bk          B.18 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          B.18 utt2: {D well, } <breathing> there's  a lot of them, {F um, }  /
sd          B.18 utt3: it depends on what issue you're talking about.   /
sd          B.18 utt4:  {C But } Democrats [ are, +  on a lot of issues are ] more liberal than Republicans,  /
sd          B.18 utt5: {C and } {D well } [ it used to be, +   <sigh> it's ] kind of hard to say now, especially after Desert Storm,  /
sd          B.18 utt6:  {C but, } {F um, } I think back in the [ ei-, +  times ] when, {F uh, } my political opinions were being  formed {D like } [ in Viet-, +  during the Vietnam ] war and stuff,   

b          A.19 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.20 utt1:  the Republicans were more, {D you know, }  what they called Hawks, which is more {D like } aggressive in war and more pro war,   

b          A.21 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.22 utt1:  and pro aggression  /
sd          B.22 utt2:  {C and, } {F um, } the Democrats were the Doves,  /
sd          B.22 utt3: they were more for peace.  /
h          B.22 utt4: {C And } I'm not sure how much  that holds true anymore,  /
%          B.22 utt5: I think, {D you know, } the issues are, -/  

bk          A.23 utt1:  Okay,  /
qy^d          A.23 utt2: {C and } you vote for the Democrats  /
%          A.23 utt3: {C or, } -/  

ny          B.24 utt1:  Yeah, /  

qy^d          A.25 utt1:  Usually. /  

ny          B.26 utt1:  yeah  /
sd          B.26 utt2: {C and } Democrats usually are  [ su-, +  more supportive ] of public assistance programs, /  

b          A.27 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          B.28 utt1:  [ {C and, } + {C and } ] programs to, {F um, } - /
sd          B.28 utt2:  the big Republican thing is that [ they don't, +  they vote ] for less government,  /
sd          B.28 utt3:  they want less government involvement,   

b          A.29 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          B.30 utt1:  in society  /
sd          B.30 utt2: {C and so } they're [ more, +   less ] apt to vote in, {D you know, } more aid to people,  /
sd          B.30 utt3: {C or } [ more, +  {F uh, } they're less ]  apt to vote in programs that involve the government running things. /  

bk          A.31 utt1:  {F Huh, } okay. /  

%          B.32 utt1:  {D So, }  /
qy          B.32 utt2: {D so } have you ever voted at all? /  

nn          A.33 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          A.33 utt2: I never have. /  

qy          B.34 utt1:  You haven't? /  

nn          A.35 utt1:  Huh-uh. /  

qw          B.36 utt1:  How old are you? /  

sd          A.37 utt1:  <Laughter> I'm twenty-six. /  

ba          B.38 utt1:  <Laughter>  {F Oh, } gosh. /  

sd          A.39 utt1:  I know, [ I sho-, +  I, ] -/  

%          B.40 utt1:  {D Well. } /  

sd          A.41 utt1:  {D well, } I don't know [ mu-, +  that much ] about it. /  

b          B.42 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.42 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd          A.43 utt1:  I don't keep up on it  /
sd          A.43 utt2:  {C and } I don't feel like I [ ha-, +  have ] enough knowledge on it [ to   even, + {D you know, }   

b          B.44 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.45 utt1:  to ] pick the right person. /  

b          B.46 utt1:  Yeah,  /
%@          B.46 utt2: {D well. }   *[[slash error]]

sv          A.47 utt1:  {C So } that's what they need, {D well, }    

+          B.48 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.49 utt1:  [ it, +  {F uh, } they ] said something to improve voting. /  

b          B.50 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          A.51 utt1:  If they could <<pause>> make it [ more, +   {F oh, } easier ] to find out, {D you know, } what's going on.  /
qy          A.51 utt2:  Do you know what I mean? /  

ny          B.52 utt1:  Yeah,  /
ny^r          B.52 utt2: yeah. /  

sd          A.53 utt1:  [ {D Like, } + {F uh, } {D like } ] to me, [ I don't, +   I didn't ] know what would have been wrong with, - /
sd          A.53 utt2: I can't even remember who ran for  president against Bush.  /
sd          A.53 utt3: I think it was, {F uh, } that woman, /  

%          B.54 utt1:  Du-, -/  

qy          A.55 utt1:  wasn't it a woman. /  

nn          B.56 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          B.56 utt2: it was Dukakis,   

b^m          A.57 utt1:  Dukakis. /  

+          B.58 utt1:  from Massachusetts. /  

bk          A.59 utt1:  Okay,  /
qy          A.59 utt2: didn't he have a woman,  /
qrr          A.59 utt3:  [ {C or }  wasn't, +  {C or } was ] that Reagan.  /
sd          A.59 utt4:  There was a woman that was running for vice president for a while. /  

aa          B.60 utt1:  {F Oh } yeah,  /
%          B.60 utt2: that was, -/  

sd          A.61 utt1:  Ferraro. /  

aa          B.62 utt1:  yeah  /
b^m          B.62 utt2: Ferraro.  /
sd          B.62 utt3:  That was a while ago,  /
sd          B.62 utt4:  that was a couple elections ago,  /
%          B.62 utt5: yeah. /  

bk          A.63 utt1:  Okay <laughter>. /  

b          B.64 utt1:  Yeah,  /
ba          B.64 utt2: that's okay. /  

sd          A.65 utt1:  {D Well, } that's what I mean,  /
sd          A.65 utt2:  {D like } I didn't know what the difference between Dukakis and Bush was. /  

b          B.66 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.67 utt1:  {D You know, } # I didn't know anything  about Bush or Dukakis. # /  

qw          B.68 utt1:  # {D So } [ what do you think about, +   # {F uh, } what do you think about ] what you see on T V about them, like in the news or on the ads,  /
%          B.68 utt2:  do you kind of just, -/  

b          A.69 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          A.69 utt2: I don't remember <baby> anything about Dukakis, /  

qy          B.70 utt1:  You don't? /  

sd          A.71 utt1:  {C but, } {D well } they're all saying  that they're going to do, {D you know, } whatever is best for their campaign anyway. /  

b          B.72 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b^r          B.72 utt2: uh-huh. /  

sd          A.73 utt1:  That's what I mean,  /
sv          A.73 utt2:  if they had some kind of public programs where you can just go out and, -/  

b          B.74 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

h          A.75 utt1:  I don't know,  /
sd          A.75 utt2: {D like }  {D you } know, in school they didn't teach you about [ demo-, +  {F uh, } the government, ]   

b          B.76 utt1:  Right. /  

+          A.77 utt1:  not really. /  

qy          B.78 utt1:  You didn't get any government classes? /  

nn          A.79 utt1:  Huh-uh. /  

b          B.80 utt1:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.80 utt2: it's really hard too,  /
%          B.80 utt3: {C because } before  they used to have, {F um, } a lot of, <sigh> - /
sv          B.80 utt4: it seems like the stuff that they  put out now, it, {E I mean, } [ I, + ] doesn't just seem like it,  /
sd          B.80 utt5: I know for a fact that [ the, +    any ] kind of stuff that if you, wrote and asked for material, - /
qh          B.80 utt6: {D well }   what do you believe in,  /
qh          B.80 utt7: what do you believe in,  /
sv          B.80 utt8: they don't take any stands on anything.  /
sv(^q)         B.80 utt9:   They kind of say, {D well } what do you want me to believe. /  

b          A.81 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          B.82 utt1:  {C Or } they word it so that it's  really hard to tell where they're standing on certain issues. /  

%          A.83 utt1:  {D Well } I'm not sure they're, - /
b          A.83 utt2:  yeah.  /
sd          A.83 utt3:  I know how they do it. /  

b          B.84 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          A.85 utt1:  It, - /
sd          A.85 utt2: like [ i-, + ]  with the abortion issues and stuff. /  

b          B.86 utt1:  Uh-huh.  /
b          B.86 utt2:  Yeah  /
sv          B.86 utt3: they have to kind  of take a stand on some things, like  abortion and things like that,  /
sd          B.86 utt4: {C  so } that's kind of, how I judge.  /
sd          B.86 utt5:  There's a few things where they have to say yes or no, like  abortion or gun control,  /
^h          B.86 utt6: {C or } let me see,  /
sd          B.86 utt7: I try to look at [ what, +  <sigh> if ]  some of the newspaper articles, or  the, - /
sd          B.86 utt8: I don't trust T V as much,  /
sd          B.86 utt9:  {C but } newspaper articles can show [ wha-, + how ] they voted in the past  /
%          B.86 utt10: [ {C and, } +   

b          A.87 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.88 utt1:  {C but } ] you get, {D you know, } - /
sv          B.88 utt2:  it all depends again on whose writing it and who they're for, because they can slant that too. /  

b          A.89 utt1:  Right,  /
%          A.89 utt2: {C and } like I said most of  [ the poli-, + the politicians, ] I'm  ((   )) , - /
sv          A.89 utt3: also the politicians put out what makes them look good anyway. /  

b          B.90 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b          B.90 utt2: yeah,  /
b^r          B.90 utt3: yeah. /  

sv          A.91 utt1:  {C And } everybody's got, {D you know, }  stuff they don't want known. /  

aa          B.92 utt1:  Right,  /
sv          B.92 utt2: everybody's got a secret <laughter>.  /
%          B.92 utt3:  {C So, } -/  

fa          A.93 utt1:  <Laughter> {D Well } anyway, I'm sorry  /
sd          A.93 utt2:  [ I didn't, +  I didn't ] have much knowledge. /  

bd          B.94 utt1:  {D Well } that's okay.  /
%          B.94 utt2:  [ Do you think, +    

sd          A.95 utt1:  I don't even remember this being on there. /  

+          B.96 utt1:  do you think, ] {F um, } - /
%          B.96 utt2: {E I mean, }   what would it take, - /
sv          B.96 utt3: {D like, } God, this is really good actually, [ tha-, + for ]  to talk to somebody who hasn't voted,  /
%          B.96 utt4: {E I mean, } what kind of, -/  

^2          A.97 utt1:  Incentive? /  

qw          B.98 utt1:   [ how would it, +  [ how, +  what  kind of stuff ]   [ would they, +  would you ] ]   like them to do so [ that, +  that ] you would know more about it.  /
qr          B.98 utt2:   Like send stuff in the mail or have it at the library  /
%          B.98 utt3: {C or, } -/  

aap          A.99 utt1:  I guess that would be good,  /
sd          A.99 utt2:  {D now } I'm sure they've got it at the library,   

b          B.100 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.101 utt1:  {D you know. } /  

b          B.102 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sd          A.103 utt1:  {E I mean } if I get to the library.  /
sd          A.103 utt2:    I've got two babies, so, I don't,  /
%          A.103 utt3: yeah, /  

qy          B.104 utt1:  {F Oh } do you?  /
b          B.104 utt2:  Yeah,  /
sv          B.104 utt3:  that will tie you down a little bit. /  

h          A.105 utt1:  {C But } [ I, + # I ] don't know. # /  

qy          B.106 utt1:  # {C Or } [ do you  # just not, + do you ]  feel like it's not really going to make that much difference if you don't vote  /
%          B.106 utt2: {C or, } -/  

sd          A.107 utt1:  {F Oh, } I know if enough people think  like that it, {D you know, } would make a difference,   

b          B.108 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.109 utt1:  if people stopped thinking like that. /  

b          B.110 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.111 utt1:  {F Um, } {D well } a lot of people,  they'll vote the way their family votes, {D you know, } /  

b          B.112 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

qy@          A.113 utt1:  [ if, + since ] you're what, Democrat?   *[[slash error]]

ny          B.114 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
ny          B.114 utt2: yeah. /  

+          A.115 utt1:  Then {D like } your kids or whatever will  follow you and just vote Democrat,  /
aa          A.115 utt2: right. /  

b          B.116 utt1:  Uh-huh, /  

%          A.117 utt1:  {E I mean, } -/  

sd          B.118 utt1:  {D Well, } not in my family <laughter>. /  

aa          A.119 utt1:  No. /  

sd          B.120 utt1:  [ We're kind of, + <laughter> we're   really ] independent. /  

bf          A.121 utt1:  All split. /  

sd          B.122 utt1:  {C But } a lot of families do that.  /
sd          B.122 utt2:   I know a lot of wives feel like they have to vote the way that their husbands vote. /  

b          A.123 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          B.124 utt1:  {C And } that kind of keeps from  getting a lot of issues resolved <breathing> <laughter>.  /
fe          B.124 utt2: Golly. /  

sd          A.125 utt1:  I lie. {F Huh. } /  

%          B.126 utt1:  {C But } {D well, } -/  

h          A.127 utt1:  I don't know,  /
sd          A.127 utt2: if I did understand  politics I probably would vote more, /  

b          B.128 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          A.129 utt1:  {C But } like I said if I voted for Bush,  <<noise surge>> - /
sd          A.129 utt2: {C or } like when, {F uh, } Gary --   

^2          B.130 utt1:  Hart? /  

+          A.131 utt1:  -- Hart was running,   

b          B.132 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.133 utt1:  a lot of women would have voted  for him just because he was nicer looking,  /
sd          A.133 utt2: not that I think he was good looking,  /
sd          A.133 utt3: {C but, }    

b          B.134 utt1:  Yeah. /  

+          A.135 utt1:  he was young. /  

b          B.136 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sv          A.137 utt1:  {C And then, } I didn't think that  was right, because he may have been a good president, or whatever. /  

b          B.138 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

%          A.139 utt1:  [ {C But } + {C because } ]   it, - /
%          A.139 utt2: what, - /
sd          A.139 utt3: he   had an affair, /  

b          B.140 utt1:  Yeah,  /
b^r          B.140 utt2: yeah. /  

sd          A.141 utt1:  {C and } it just threw him out of the whole running. /  

b          B.142 utt1:  Yeah. /  

sd          A.143 utt1:  {C And } a lot of people go by their,  {F uh, } personal life when they vote  /
%          A.143 utt2: {C and, } -/  

b          B.144 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
b          B.144 utt2: yeah. /  

sv          A.145 utt1:  Which I guess if you got turmoil in  your personal life, you're going to let it come into work  /
%          A.145 utt2: {C but, }   

b          B.146 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

+          A.147 utt1:  I'm sure there's a lot of people that have had, -/  

sv          B.148 utt1:  I think everybody does,  /
sv          B.148 utt2:  it just depends on how well you can hide it. /  

b          A.149 utt1:  Yeah. /  

%          B.150 utt1:  {D You know, } {C and } I, - /
aa          B.150 utt2:  that's very true,  /
sv          B.150 utt3: [ I, +  I ]  think that doesn't really have that much to do with, {F um, }  unless they've  done something really horrible, {D you know, }   

nd          A.151 utt1:  {D Well, } /  

+          B.152 utt1:  or something real abnormal. /  

sv          A.153 utt1:  {D Well, } criminal or something like that's different, /  

aa          B.154 utt1:  Yeah,  /
aa          B.154 utt2: right, /  

sv          A.155 utt1:  {C but, }   

%          B.156 utt1:  {C but } otherwise. /  

+          A.157 utt1:  if him and his wife weren't getting along, -/  

b          B.158 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

qh          A.159 utt1:  {E I mean, } [ what is, +  what effect does ]  that have on him running for president.  /
qy          A.159 utt2: Do you know what I mean? /  

ny          B.160 utt1:  Yeah,  /
ny^r          B.160 utt2: yeah. /  

sv          A.161 utt1:  It's all so secretive,  /
sv          A.161 utt2: {D see } we really don't see [ the, +    

aa          B.162 utt1:  That's right. /  

+          A.163 utt1:  the ] true person anyway. /  

sv          B.164 utt1:  I think [ that's, + that's ]  having a big effect on how poorly  that the  country is being run, is that, {F um, } [ [ the, +  the   election, ] +  the people that want to get elected ] are turning it into a popularity  contest by advertising the things [ that, +    

b          A.165 utt1:  Right. /  

+          B.166 utt1:  <Noise> {D you know, } that ]  really don't have anything to do with how well they do the job.  /
sv          B.166 utt2:  {C But } see they're trying  to find an excuse not to deal with [ what, + {D you know, } the issues that ] people  really want to know about, because on those issues you have to say yes or no.  /
sv          B.166 utt3:  {C And } if they don't say yes or no, then <ringing> maybe somebody will vote for them  that wouldn't have if they had come down on the wrong side.  /
qy          B.166 utt4:  Do you know what I'm saying? /  

b          A.167 utt1:  Right. /  

sv          B.168 utt1:  {C So } they just try and make it a  personal thing,  /
sd          B.168 utt2: {E I mean, } if you remember any of the T V commercials from the last presidential   campaign, <<voices in background>> they all had, {F uh, } pictures of  Bush [ with his grandchildren, +  walking around with his grandchildren ]  /
sd          B.168 utt3: {C and } even from Reagan,   it [ was all just like, +  looks like ] a McDonald's commercial, {D you know. } /  

b          A.169 utt1:  Uh-huh <laughter>. /  

sd          B.170 utt1:  <Laughter> # That's about what it looked like. # /  

qw          A.171 utt1:  # {D Well } what did you think # of Reagan as a president? /  

sv          B.172 utt1:  I just thought he was really inept.  /
sv          B.172 utt2:  I don't think he did anything at all.  /
sv          B.172 utt3: [ He, +  they ] just kind of sat him up there  like a puppet  /
%          B.172 utt4: {C and } the people that were, -/  

qy          A.173 utt1:  Do you think he won from Carter <beep>  because of [ the, +  {F um, } the ] hostages that were held at that time? /  

no          B.174 utt1:  <Children> {D Well } I think that was  part of it,  /
sv          B.174 utt2: I think there's a lot of [ thin-, +  the economic problems ]  that the country was having at the time and [ the, +  the ] recession and stuff, /  

b          A.175 utt1:  Uh-huh. /  

sv          B.176 utt1:  people just had a picture of Carter  as not being real capable,  /
%          B.176 utt2: {C but } he, actually, - /
%          B.176 utt3: all right,  /
%          B.176 utt4: this <laughter> - /
sd          B.176 utt5:  I thought he was great. /  

sd          A.177 utt1:  I thought Carter was good too,  /
%          A.177 utt2: {C and } that was, - /
%          A.177 utt3: yeah, /  

qy          B.178 utt1:  Did you?  /
sd          B.178 utt2:  I always liked him,  /
sd          B.178 utt3:  I thought he was great at the time  /
sd          B.178 utt4: {C and } [ I, +  I ] just couldn't get over the fact that Reagan beat him.  /
sd          B.178 utt5:   [ I, +  {D you know, } that I ]  just couldn't believe that # he got voted out. # /  

%          A.179 utt1:  # {C But, } I think I wasn't, # - /
^h          A.179 utt2:  {D well } let's see,  /
qy^g          A.179 utt3: that's been about ten years ago, right? /  

ny          B.180 utt1:  Uh-huh,  /
ny          B.180 utt2: yeah. /  

^h          A.181 utt1:  Okay,  /
sd          A.181 utt2: {D so } I was only fifteen  or sixteen,  /
sd          A.181 utt3: {C but } I remember Carter  /
sd          A.181 utt4: {C and } I liked him. /  

qy          B.182 utt1:  You did?  /
qy          B.182 utt2:  Have you heard stuff about  him lately,  /
qy          B.182 utt3: do you know what he's doing? /  

nn          A.183 utt1:  No,  /
sd^e          A.183 utt2: I sure don't. /  

sd          B.184 utt1:  {D Well } [ he is just, + he is   really ] active still politically.  /
sd          B.184 utt2: He's been overseas.  /
qy^d          B.184 utt3: You remember when he was in  office he did a lot of stuff for the Middle East, for pe-, -/ 
